Friday, July 13, 2012

Syrian WMD Reported to be On The Move

13 July 2012:The Wall Street Journal reports today that according to U.S. officials (read: White House, CIA and Pentagon) new intelligence indicates that Syrian dictator Bashar Al-Assad has begun moving his undeclared WMD stocks out of their storage sites to other undisclosed locations in the country.  The speculation on why this movement is occurring now runs the gamut from a potential WMD strike on rebel positions or their civilian supporters (ethnic cleansing) to a feint to confuse Western intelligence agencies who have been keen to track the highly lethal biological and chemical stockpiles.


I have made this same point before, but feel the necessity to reiterate it yet again. The destruction of Damascus foretold in Isaiah 17 also foretells of limited destruction to north/central Israel as well as to northwestern Jordan.

Most importantly, not only does Isaiah 17 foretell of the annihilation of Damascus, but it ties that massive overnight event directly to the destruction of the whole of Syria (Aram) as a sovereign kingdom.

This is clearly evident in just the first three verses of Isaiah 17:

“Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city,
And it will be a ruinous heap

The cities of Aroer are forsaken;
They will be for flocks
Which lie down, and no one will make them afraid.

The fortress also will cease from Ephraim,
The kingdom from Damascus,
And the remnant of Syria;
They will be as the glory of the children of Israel,”
Says the Lord of hosts.

When discussing Damascus' coming destruction in no way can that event be isolated or set apart from the full context of the prophetic text.

If we make that error that then we miss the full context meaning and our exegesis of God's Word becomes invalid and fatally flawed.

The bottom line from my eschatological perspective is that when it comes to Isaiah 17, it's all of it or none of it. I'm for all of it, for that is what God said to Isaiah.
UPDATE: Simultaneous with the Wall Street Journal's report Arutz Sheva in Israel published a report stating that former Mossad chief Danny Yatom is on record disclosing to the UK's Sky News that Israel is prepared for the possibility of military action inside Syria if Syrian chemical weapons were to come into the possession of Hezbollah, Al Qaeda or other terrorist organizations in the region. Quoting Yatom, The conventional wisdom should be that we cannot exclude a non-conventional attack on Israel... We would have to pre-empt in order to prevent it. We need to be prepared to launch even military attacks... and military attacks mean maybe a deterioration to war.”

For its part, the Al-Assad regime denies any such movement has occurred. Syria is a non-signatory to the 1992 Chemical Weapons Convention, an arms-control agreement which outlaws the production, stockpiling or use of these weapons.

As stated many times, I believe the prophecy of Isaiah 17 is directly related to Syrian WMD and the destruction of Damascus an Israeli retaliation to their use against Israel. Verse 11 of Isaiah's prophecy references the growing of biological materiel, and a heap being the harvest in a day of overflowing and of mortal pain. As Isaiah's prophecy concludes, in the evening there is trouble and before morning it's all over and done with. That's a good description of how WMD warfare is to be waged, with sudden and devastating existential impact.


hartdawg said...

Is it true that a lot of the WMDs in Syria were originally in Iraq before Saddam husaine had themmuggled out of Iraq while the U.N. was playing around? my understanding is that Syria possesses all the weapons that Saddam had. is that accurate?

SeanOsborne said...


I believe it is very accurate to say that Syria is where the Ba'athist Al-Assad regime had received a good portion of the WMD that Saddam Hussein's Ba'athist government transferred for safe keeping in 2002-2003. I believe the majority of that WMD transfer consisted of VX, Sarin and Tabun and possibly weaponized Anthrax in liquid form.

I believe the two governments came to this agreement based upon the quasi-Islamic and definitively Israel-hating premise that these weapons were to be used against Israel in any near-future conflict, or as of January or February 2003 at the latest.

However, the amount of Iraqi WMD received by Syria really does not come close to the amount of WMD agents that Syria has produced of its own accord. More importantly, the stability or "shelf-life" of the Iraqi WMD has expired at this point 10 years later, meaning that the former Iraqi WMD no longer exists as viable weapons and it is the Syrian-made stockpiles of WMD which are the real threat to human life in Israel or elsewhere.

Great Grany 5 said...

Good point Sean! I hadn't even considered the WMD stability after 10 years of stockpiling. What I have considered though, is the fact that Syria plans to take out their rage towards the Muslim Brotherhood's efforts in their region, against Israel.
Sounds like a contrived extermination method to 'sterilize' the region of any hope for a peaceful existence. My thoughts go directly to Lebanon as the next blood letting. When I finished reading and studying the Is. 17 passage it became abundantly clear that Israel will indeed suffer greatly and for that reason, my heart feels very heavy right now. I only pray it isn't so but God's word doesn't lie and it is always fulfilled exactly as He states it.

We all need to understand that the time we are living in right now is heading in direct fulfillment of His Word and yet, we are not to have any fear at all. That is a tall order but not something we cannot do, with God's help and great mercy. Whew, it is prayer time again, big time!

Shalom to all,

SeanOsborne said...

GG5 and Hhartdawg,

I may have over-looked some data regarding the "shelf-life" or inclusion of Saddam's Iraqi WMD into the Syrian program (or possibly)into Hezbollah's possession as a proxy as their are reports of former Iraqi WMD in Bekaa Valley storage.

According to the U.S. DoD Militarily Critical Technologies List (MCTL) Part II: Weapons of Mass Destruction Technologies (WMDT) my previous statement may be in error.

Sections 3 and 4 of the MCTL Part II dealing with Bio-Chem weapons states that Syria is a nation the the technology necessary to stabilize these types of agents.
The Al-Assad regime possesses the technology to freeze-dry biological agents making them viable for 30 years or longer, and the technology to incorporate chemical weapons or their precursors into the Syria chemwar program.

Great Grany 5 said...

Oh, that is bad news (the addendum re:WMD being frozen and still viable up to 30 years). My heart is really heavy now because my favorite place in Israel is the Galilee area. I know most people pick Jerusalem and I love it too but Galilee is just special and the peace that we experienced in that region was such a blessing. I would love to return there one more time but I think I will wait for Jesus' shout out!

I just had a very dramatic discussion with my hubby regarding the coming events we are discussing and he just thinks it is foolishness. He isn't a believer in Jesus Christ but he says he honors God. I shared the addendum with him because I have been trying to get him prepared for what most of us believe is coming very soon. Your report seemed to sink in a little further today. Now he is asking questions about Isaiah and from his questions it is causing me to really dig and pray, pray and dig.

Thanks for sharing the added info Sean,


hartdawg said...

GG5 1) prayers for your hubby 2) this interest proves the importance and effectiveness of studying prophecy

Great Grany 5 said...

Thanks hartdawg, for your prayers. They mean so very much o me. None of us can go very far all alone.

He elegance of bible prophecy has always been a hue part of my Christian life and along the way, God has revealed so much more that starts clearing up the big ? Questions we have had. We have to be getting close to the Big Event because it seems The Devourer is really throwing every form of deception at God's word. Studying together builds strength and understanding.
Now to begin the Isaiah Journalfor my dear hubby.

Thanx again,


Anonymous said...

Things are heating up so much now, yet the world continues on as usual.It boggles my mind that only a few people can discern the times we live in!

SeanOsborne said...


All the mind-boggling aside for a moment... the real "thing" is that with all that is onging right now ...

"Ain't no body really seen nothin yet!"

There is no doubt about that.

I believe we will see the fulfillment of Isaiah 17; Joshua 13:1-7; Psalm 83 (and a few other directly related prophecies), and possibly a portion if not all of Ezekeil 38-39...

...but that abouts it, if God the Father does not call His Son to collect us sooner.

That is the unknown unknown.

However, I also think the Departure (II Thessalonians 2:1-3) of the Bride of Christ is on a very relatively short fuse, so to speak. It's a fuse no man or angel can know the duration of.

Great Grany 5 said...

Sean, this morning I felt we had advanced toward the first salvo of the biggest war the world will witness, prerapture.
When the news media announced that the US Navy had fired on a dingy in the Gulf of Hormuz, killing one and injuring 3 others, the worst kind of dread filled our home. Even my dear hubby was upset greatly at the news. I think what he said was "Here we go!" and it agreed with what I was thinking.
I want to think it will be slow momentum at first and then rapid fire fulfilment. But then I got on Al Jazerra's web site and those people have a whole different volume of real news. It tells a different story.

Now this robot is going to try signing out and wishing you all great Shalom!


hartdawg said...

GG5....has your hubby made any progress on a decision toward christ? i been praying off and on but not exactly sure how to best pray . i don't ever want to say "I'm praying" and not pray.
Sean it is indeed unknown. personally i waver between the view of the church being here to witness psalm 83 or not. the Lord has his plan and some parts are revealed and some are not. the Lord knows what's best and that's good enough for me. that said when i look at what's going on i firmly believe our time is getting very short

Anonymous said...

Question: If Damascus and all of Syria, is destroyed, and much of northern Israel is devastated, as a precursor to a "Psalm 83 War" would could this work? After all, Psalm 83 includes Syria.

SeanOsborne said...

"Question: If Damascus and all of Syria, is destroyed, and much of northern Israel is devastated, as a precursor to a "Psalm 83 War" would could this work? After all, Psalm 83 includes Syria."

ANSWER: Much of northern Israel is not "devastated." The text says the "fortress" ceases in Ephraim, meaning Israel takes some damage, but it's not nearly close to the destruction of Syria.

Syria is NOT a part of Psalm 83.

Asshur is not Syria, it is Iraq.

hartdawg said...

"Asshur is not Syria, it is Iraq" does asshur consist of ALL of Iraq or just certain parts of it? my knowledge of biblical geography is lacking. since our pullout of Iraq they seem to be becoming more and more unstable as if they are preparing to take part in psalm 83. This could not be said just 10yrs ago.

Great Grany 5 said...

My hubby refuses to believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. He is the result of very crafty Higher Education during the 1960-1990's. He has a masters in Psychology, and has absorbed everything National Geographic Magazine has published to contradict the Christian Perspective.

My prayers for him are pretty simple but it is what I was led to pray for him. "Lord, by your Holy Spirit convict him of the Truth that he has forsaken and turn him whole heartedly to You; May he have a Road to Damascus experience with you such as Saul had prior to his becoming your Apostle Paul".

Yeah, I pray that almost every day and mean it with all of my heart. Great having you join me in prayers for him. He is 84 years old and doesn't really see any reason to live. But he has felt that way for most of his life. Thank you!

I heard an evangelist preaching the other day and he remarked that what we are experiencing right now is the destruction of the Socialist type of government, worldwide and that it will topple many nations but especially the USA. I never considered this current economic mess in that light but I do remember in studying the bible in past decades that there is a passage that says the world's governments will be come unable to solve problems. I cannot remember where it is but I will research it and list it. It was while I was attending a Baptist Institute and we spent a great deal of time discussing what all it meant.

Anyone recognize it?

We will not only survive all of this but we will become those lights shining in a dark world. Hope my wick lasts that long!


Great Grany 5 said...

Headline News on says "
If Damascus falls, Israel and its gas fields feared threatened" and there is a video there that is quite good. Most thorough report that I have heard or read to date.


Anonymous said...

The pitfall of connecting modern-day Iran with Assyria is that during the psalmist’s time, Assyria only comprised much of what is today northern Syria and part of Iraq. - Bill Salus

SeanOsborne said...

I disagree with that historical view Bill. And I base my view upon the following Assyrian source.

An Assyrian history from a descendant of the Assyrians, Peter BetBasoo, informs the reader that during the era in which Asaph wrote Psalm 83 (circa 1000 BC) the Assyrians were saddled with the difficult problem of dealing with invasions of Arameans from the west, and who crossed the Euphrates River into Assyria proper.

These invasions occurred during what we call today the "Middle Assyrian Empire." The Aramean invasions began during Tiglath-Pileser's reign and continued through his son's reign, Ashur-bel-kala, in the period of 1074-1057 BC. This is the very doorstep of when Asaph wrote Psalm 83.

Ashur-bel-kala's records inform the reader:

" The Arameans were penetrating deep into Assyrian territory, including Tur Abdin, Harran and Khabur. For the next century Assyria declined, the Aramean disruptions being the principal cause. It was not until 934 B.C., by which time the Arameans had settled into stable kingdoms in Mesopotamia, that Assyria would reemerge.

There we have it. From at least 1074 to 934 BC, in the 140-year long period of time when Asaph is believed to have composed the imprecatory prophecy of Psalm 83, Assyria was but a rump nation, under siege by Aramean (Aram) invaders deep into its heartland.

Brief History of Assyrians - Peter BetBasoo

Anonymous said...

If you read through the source which you quoted, and look at the maps, it seems clear that while the Arameans cut into Assyrian territory, it was in fact on the Iraqi side of the Empire. The Syrian portion was never lost.

Anonymous said...

Also something to consider:

"The Hagrites were part of Aram, whose capitol was Damascus in modern Syria." - Jack Kelley

SeanOsborne said...

The source clearly states that Ashur-dan II (who reigned from 935-912 BC) "...concentrated on rebuilding Assyria within its natural borders, from Tur Abdin to the foothills beyond Arbel, he built government offices in all provinces, and as an economic boost, provided ploughs throughout the land, which yielded record grain production.

Any map (ancient or modern) proves that Tur Abdin is now known as Midyat. Midyat is located in extreme southeastern Turkey.

This map of Tur Abdin is most instructive as it shows this region is quite some distance from Aram-Syria.

Additionally, writes of this same time period (when Asaph composed Psalm 83):

"1076 - 934 BC
Recent Aramean migrations into Mesopotamia increase to the point where Assyria is seriously weakened and begins a decline and a century of total obscurity, reduced to its heartland.

The heartland of Assyria in Asaph's time did not include Aram Syria.

Proper hermeneutics demands that in composing an exegesis one recognize that Asaph wrote Ashur, he did not write Aram.

Inversely, it is improper hermeneutics to attempt to shoehorn Assyria into Aram Syria during the period when Asaph composed Psalm 83 as the overwhelming weight of historical evidence does not support that contention.

Asaph's reference to Asshur equates to modern-day Iraq, that part of Iraq most recently known as The Sunni Triangle.

I will soon be making this information, and other info I have come across, into a featured article on this blog.

SeanOsborne said...

"Also something to consider:

"The Hagrites were part of Aram, whose capitol was Damascus in modern Syria." - Jack Kelley

In the context of Psalm 83:6, the Hagrites are directly linked to Edom, Ishmaelites, Moab. This is a direct link to the modern-day Hashemite Kingdom Of Jordan, to which verse 9 directly relates.

I can find no reference of the Hagrites having control of Aram, or of Damascus as being their capitol city. I am especially concerned about this statement's applicability during the period when Asaph wrote Psalm 83, i.e. circa 1000 BC.

Most all references place the Hagrites east of Gilead, which is also Jordan proper as we know it today.

Anonymous said...

If this one source is correct and we limit Assyria of the time only to the region of Tur Abdin extending directly to Arbel, as you say, then this is from Turkey down into Israel. Syria lies exactly in between these and as such, it still would have been Syria. Just trying to be an Berean here. But I'm looking at a few other maps and studies which point to something much lager than this. So I would be careful of accepting this one source online. Back to the study...

Anonymous said...

Hmmm... Also, the more that I look at this, it seems as though there really isn't any reason to include Egypt in the Psalm 83 list of nations. Maybe the SInai, but not Egypt. The Hagarites lived near Reuben, but not in Egypt.

Anonymous said...

If this is the case, then Psalm 83 would only be Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan and the Palestinians.

Anonymous said...

Scratch that Arbel. Different Arbel. Today known as Arbil or Erbil. This would be in Iraq. Okay. So if "Assyria" was truly as small as this, it basically encompassed the triangle of the borders of Turkey, Syria and Iraq. But not a heck of a lot of any of them. Again, if it was truly this limited. Most other maps and sources seem to have it a bit bigger with a crescent like arch over the Mediterranean.

Sorry for the multiple posts. This is all quite interesting.

SeanOsborne said...

My own literalist and hermeneutics-based exegetical thoughts regarding Isaiah 17 predate the publication of Bill Salus' Isralestine regarding Psalm 83 by several years. However, at that time the prophetic sequence did not yet appear to be potentially manifest in near-time, real-world events. I wrote little if anything about it.

That paradigm was radically changed with the publication of "Isralestine. The paradigm changed almost immediately for myself. The analysts "big picture" emerged, no doubt guided by the Lord's hand..

That effort continues to this day, and the potential likelihood of an Islamist takeover of Syria presents itself as a potential cause behind the events that will lead to the fulfillment of Isaiah 17, and serve as the potential precursor event to the fulfillment of Psalm 83... which might well lead to Joshua 13:1-7.. and on and on and on.

On a side not.. the closest to Egypt we may get is the reference to Amalek. I interpret that to the modern-day Islamic Bedouins of the Sinai Peninsula. Back-biters as were their ancient forebears. I have little doubt about this.

I am of the opinion that Syria becomes defunct per Isaiah 17 and Jeremiah 49:23-27 shortly prior to the final fulfillment of Psalm 83 and Joshua 13:1-7, among the others in Jeremiah 49.