tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373186484944191934.post8626019715171888636..comments2024-03-29T09:41:16.452-04:00Comments on ESCHATOLOGY TODAY: All These Things Be Fulfilled - Part III - The EndSean Osbornehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16635416157001117844noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373186484944191934.post-5427105292507025612014-01-30T22:21:04.491-05:002014-01-30T22:21:04.491-05:00hartdawg.
Yes, I also think that the curse on the...hartdawg.<br /><br />Yes, I also think that the curse on the fig tree represented Jesus' cursing a spiritually dead Israel.<br /><br />In Ezekiel 38/39 there not a single reference to Jerusalem or to a standing Temple or Temple worship.<br />And there is also no reference to Jewish men preaching the Word of God. In fact there is no reference to any religious anything in Ezekiel 38/39.<br /><br />This is a picture of Israel still in unbelief as, for the most part, it is right now <br /> <br />I think the glaring absence of these things strongly points toward Ezekiel 38/39 being a pre-70th Week prophecy.<br /><br />Only at the end of chapters 38/39 is there the past-tense reference to the pouring out of the Lord's Spirit upon the whole house of Israel. This is precisely where God again turns His direct attention upon her.<br /><br />And only after Ezekiel 38/39 does Ezekiel begin to prophecy about the 3rd Temple and the next several thousand prophetic words are dedicated to the exquisite details of it all.<br /><br />This is why I am of the opinion that the Harpazo occurs either just before or during Ezekiel 38/39, certainly prior to Ezekiel 39:29. <br /><br />The Harpazo is not related to any other last days prophecy. Yet, it is an imminent stand-alone event that is wholly within the sovereign will of God the Father to execute. He already knows when, but He doesn't want anyone else to know when because He doesn't want Satan to know it either because he would do his utmost to mess it up. It will take one and all by very sudden total surprise. In the twinkling of an eye, or in about 1 billionth of a second. Poof, we're gone, and that's the end of that, so to speak.<br /><br />Sean Osbornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16635416157001117844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373186484944191934.post-32529907177453632962014-01-30T21:16:56.708-05:002014-01-30T21:16:56.708-05:00Thank you for your direct answer. I long suspected...Thank you for your direct answer. I long suspected that the fig tree represents the rebirth of Israel. Especially when I consider that just a few days prior to this prophecy Jesus cursed the fig tree and many scholars believe that represented Israel's destruction until the last days and the disciples would have still had that in mind. (Tho I'm not sure of that interpretation) anyways, now I have a response to those who challenge the interpretation of the fig tree.<br /><br />Regarding Gog/Magog, here's what confuses and perhaps you can help clear up my (mis?)understanding. When I read the prophecy a few things come to mind. 1) God's focus is back on Israel, 2) God is dealing with the nations in wrath and 3) God is directly and supernaturally intervening in the affairs of man again.....all post rapture scenarios and yet we see 1) no mention of a temple, 2) 7 years of burning weapons and 3) no mention of a covenant. Whenever I bring this up with Pre-trib scholars they simply say "well, there could be a few years gap between the rapture and the 70th week. That answer simply doesn't sit well with me because when I look at the pattern and the purpose of the rapture I simply don't see a significant gap. Maybe a few weeks to a month but that's all. Please forgive me if I'm slow of learning but can you help clear this up for me? On one hand the clues point to this prophecy occurring AFTER the harpadzo, yet on the other hand the clues indicate that this prophecy occurs at least a few years BEFORE the rapture.<br />One more thing, I'm not trying to set dates as some have accused me of doing, I'm just trying to understand the seasons and times. Thanks again for your help.hartdawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14554733830775640375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373186484944191934.post-83503920720113898762014-01-30T12:11:13.678-05:002014-01-30T12:11:13.678-05:00How many world leaders do I think share in my beli...<i>How many world leaders do I think share in my belief about there being a 70 to 80 year long generation following the fulfillment of the Isaiah 66:8 prophecy on May 14 1948???</i>"<br /><br />If by "world leaders" you mean presidents, kings, prime ministers or those otherwise known as heads of state, then my answer is simply <b>not one</b>. <br /><br />I know of not one world leader who believes this as I do. But they are all secular people, so why would they believe in the literal Word of God. <br /><br />Quite frankly the lack of belief of those world leaders is their problem, not mine.<br /><br />Honestly, I have never given their lack of belief much thought at all, excepting only when I am reading The Revelation of Jesus Christ and envision them being the ones begging death to come upon them, or of falling over dead with heart attacks due to the abject fear that will overcome them when they see what is coming upon the earth. <br /><br />Then I think that such earthly misery and suffering could all have been avoided had they accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior, and they would at that time still have yet to endure the their physical death followed by the spiritual judgement before the Great White Throne and eternal separation from God, the second death.<br /><br />On the other-hand, if these world leaders are evangelical brethren Christians, then I do believe there are millions upon millions of them alive right now.<br /><br />Belief in the 'end times' is as basic as anything for the Christian today and has been for the past 1,981 years to be precise. <br /><br />If it is not, then that person is oblivious to prophecy and treats the Word of God as if it were a buffet line from which they can pick and choose to consume as they please. It doesn't work like that; the Holy Spirit doesn't work that way; the Word of God is not a religious or spiritual buffet. It is One Word and it means what it says. Period.<br /><br />Again, I must return to Matthew 24:32-35 (the parable of the fig tree). It does not get any clearer than this when it comes directly from the mouth of the Son of God, Our God Incarnate, the Lord Jesus Christ, Yashua HaMashiach:<br /><br />(MORE EMPHASIS ADDED)<br /><br />"<i>Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. <br /><br />So you also, <b>WHEN YOU SEE ALL THESE THINGS</b>, know that it (He) is near — at the doors! <b>Assuredly, I say to you, THIS GENERATION will by no means pass away till all these things take place.</b> Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away. </i>"<br /><br />People who deny the clear meaning of this text have bigger problems to deal with than I have time to address here.Sean Osbornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16635416157001117844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373186484944191934.post-86106194304623403642014-01-30T11:09:27.063-05:002014-01-30T11:09:27.063-05:00Sean,
How many world leaders do you think share yo...Sean,<br />How many world leaders do you think share your belief about this 2028 timeline?<br /><br />I know Netanyahu has made occasional references to eschatology in speeches.<br /><br />I'm always hesitant to believe these things because many "end of the world" dates have come and gone in the past.mark3210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373186484944191934.post-30730863175429211502014-01-30T10:16:52.447-05:002014-01-30T10:16:52.447-05:00Q2: "Can God pull back the prophetic clock?&q...Q2: "<i>Can God pull back the prophetic clock?</i>"<br /><br />Almighty God can do anything He wants. He is omnipotent. He says it and it is.<br /><br />However, God is true to His prophetic word and those words are fulfilled as precisely as they have already been given to us. <br /><br />There are appointed times for these prophecies to come to their fulfillments, and they all occur over a specific amount of time. <br /><br />So, my fervent belief is that there are a grand total of <i><b>at least</b></i> 70 to as many as 80 years for the generational clock that began on 14 May 1948 to come to completion. I personally do not think this world will continue as it is past the year 2028 AD. <br /><br />I absolutely believe the Harpazo will occur during this period, probably closer to the 70th year than the 80th because the latter years without question constitute the 7-years of the 70th Week - the Tribulation and Great Tribulation - prior to which the Bride of Christ will have been Harpazoed off this earth.<br /><br />----<br /><br />Q3: "<i>Do those who dwell in the cities at that time all have to be believing Israelis, or could it be possible that some are apostates who accept the antichrist and stay and continue to burn weapons and others who dwell in the cities are those who occupy after the believing remnant flees?</i><br /><br />I believe the 7 years of Israel burning the Magog Confederations weapons will occur prior to the advent of the 70th Week.<br /><br />I believe God will pour out His Spirit upon Israel as they recognize His hand in action miraculously saving them from certain conquest and destruction by the hand of these invaders. <br /><br />The sudden appearance of the 144,000 Jewish evangelists and the Two Witnesses at the start of the 70th Week (the first 42 months or 1,260 days) who evangelize the entire planet (and the Tribulation Saints) are the eschatological specifics that I always point towards as conclusively supporting what I believe about that time.<br /><br />I believe in the pouring out of His Spirit that God will reverse and eliminate completely the spiritual blindness and deafness that has been Israel's condition (for the most part) per the Covenant of Moab as given to Israel by Moses in Deuteronomy 29 and as prophesied to end by Paul in Romans 11. I believe this occurs either during or immediately after the battle of Gog/Magog, and that it is probably consistent with the same time, the 7 months, in which Israel is burying the dead.Sean Osbornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16635416157001117844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373186484944191934.post-72782020152661393632014-01-30T09:47:58.367-05:002014-01-30T09:47:58.367-05:00hartdawg.
I am so very happy that you have presen...hartdawg.<br /><br />I am so very happy that you have presented the question about what the Son of God, Our God Incarnate, the Lord Jesus Christ, Yashua HaMashiach, expressly said to His disciples in His discourse to them on the Mount of Olives. <br /><br />First of all I have to say that I have a slight issue with the Spiritual well-being of those human beings who would apply a different meaning to the Words of Yeshua HaMashiach than is utterly and completely made clear in the plain text -- irregardless of whether the text has been presented to them in Aramaic, Hebrew, Greek, English or any other language on the face of the earth into which this Scripture, the literal Word of God, has been translated. I find such 'alternate meaning' nonsense to be quite devoid of the Holy Spirit.<br /><br />That bit out of the way, my response to this question is direct for the text of Jesus' discourse (the entire text is Matthew 24:1 through Matthew 26:2) to His disciples was conducted on the Mount of Olives directly opposite and in direct view of the 2nd Temple in Eretz Israel (the land of Israel). This land was even known to the Roman Empire at that time as the Province of Judea (Province of the Jews). <br /><br />So, in what land was Jesus' earthly ministry conducted?<br /><br /><b>Eretz Isra'el!</b><br /><br />So, why therefore would Jesus suddenly and inexplicably change the entire context by referring to any other place but Eretz Israel in His parable of the fig tree which was part and parcel of His response to His disciples question, "<i>“Tell us, when shall these things be? And what shall be the sign of Thy coming and of the end of the world?</i>" (Matthew 24:3)<br /><br />How can the parable of the fig tree <b>NOT</b> be a direct reference to Eretz Israel inhabited by Jews when Jesus has just finished providing the disciples with the context of (emphasis added): “<i>When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, <b>standing in the holy place (whoso readeth, let him understand), then let them that be in Judea flee</b> unto the mountains.</i>" (Matthew 24:15-16)<br /><br />What geographic location is Jesus referring to right here if not the Temple in Jerusalem in Eretz Israel? <br /><br />So, what precisely was Jesus speaking about when He said to His disciples, "<i>Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near.</i>"???<br /><br />What happens to a fig tree in summer time? The fig tree gives its ripe fruit, ripe figs! After a long winter the fig tree's branches become tender and leaves sprout. A very very months later and the fig tree is in full bloom, and in the midst of summer its fruit, the figs, are ripe and abundant. <br /><br />Spiritually, what is this saying about Eretz Israel and the people living there? The leaves of the spring and the fruit of the summer figuratively represent the people who are engaged in the true faith, they are worshiping God; they must assuredly are <b>not</b> a secularized or apostate people devoid of His Spirit! <br /><br />So, the appearance of the leaves in spring is a sure sign in these last days that His coming (in the summer) is very near. <br /><br />For some time now, and right now in fact, Eretz Israel is becoming more and more filled with our brethren who are Christians and Messianic Jews. And they are even joining the IDF is tremendous increasing numbers as we speak. There is even an unstoppable drive among the Jews in Israel to rebuild the Temple and return to that form of proscribed Mosaic Covenant worship of God.<br /><br />Jesus' parable of the fig tree is a direct reference to Eretz Israel, both Spiritually and Literally.<br /><br />I'll get to your 2nd and 3rd questions next...Sean Osbornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16635416157001117844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8373186484944191934.post-17951738842568349412014-01-29T20:43:07.090-05:002014-01-29T20:43:07.090-05:00Couple of questions (as usual)
1) there is a diff...Couple of questions (as usual)<br /><br />1) there is a difference of opinion among Pre-trib scholars as to whether the fig tree in Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 represents the rebirth of Israel. I think it does because so many other significant events occurred the same year. Critics say that Jesus is just comparing the signs, saying when you see this things (tribulation events) occur you know it's near. What scriptures can I use to show them that Jesus indeed had the rebirth of Israel in mind?<br /><br />2) a question many watchers have (I'm not sure if it's been asked on this site) is this, can you imagine a senerio in which God pulls back the prophetic clock? If we're indeed a generation of strength, which I agree with you that we are, then the start of the 70th week can still be 7 years away. Can you see God pulling back the prophetic clock?<br /><br />3) in Ezekiel 39:? It says that those who dwell in the cities will burn the weapons for fuel (a remarkable description of modern technology 2,500 years ago). Do those who dwell in the cities at that time all have to be believing Israelis, or could it be possible that some are apostates who accept the antichrist and stay and continue to burn weapons and others who dwell in the cities are those who occupy after the believing remnant ( 1/3 I believe) flees?<br />Thank you for the time and effort you put into this blog. I grew up in a prophecy oriented church, but now I live in an area where prophecy is very rarely taught, it's mostly seeker sensitive trash so I rely heavily on my own time in the word and sites like this one and lamb and lion and the like for prophecy teaching and updates.hartdawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14554733830775640375noreply@blogger.com