2 June 2017: Speaking of a little horn, guess who Hillary Clinton is now blaming her loss in last year's election for President of the United States on? (A world-class science fiction author couldn't dream this up!) If you said Macedonia, you are absolutely correct! How utterly bizarre or proof positive of a heaven sent strong delusion this is.
9 March 2017:You may remember the above image, it's from the recent interpretive look at the text of Daniel 7 which was titled SITREP E7-16: The Little Horn. You may also recall there was a closely associated interpretive look at Daniel 2 in conjunction with the text of Daniel 7 which was simply titled Ten Toes.
9 March 2017:You may remember the above image, it's from the recent interpretive look at the text of Daniel 7 which was titled SITREP E7-16: The Little Horn. You may also recall there was a closely associated interpretive look at Daniel 2 in conjunction with the text of Daniel 7 which was simply titled Ten Toes.
So, in the wake of these to posts on Eschatology Today has anyone wondered about exactly where within modern Europe the prophetic "Little Horn" might arise? It has to happen because the prophetic Word of God is inerrant. Therefore this study, to this blog author at least, begged the question: Where in Europe has a new nation emerged in recent memory?
A possible potential answer is staring the whole world in the face. The nations of the former Yugoslavia. These nations were, under different names nearly two thousand years ago, all very integral to the Roman Empire. And one of them stands apart from the rest because its name is the same now as it was back then: the little and predominantly Greek nation of the Former Yugoslav Republic (or FYR) of Macedonia. However, today the people are not known as Greeks, but rather as a distinct Macedonian people who predominantly speak Macedonian, a language intimately related to the Bulgarian and northern Greek Slavonic languages.
Macedonia, as most folks know from reading this blog, is inextricably associated with Bible prophecy. Most often referenced as Grecia, and represented prophetically as the "male goat" in Daniel 8, Macedonia was a leading force in ancient Greece; it was the origin of both Alexander the Great and the Greek Empire as foretold to Daniel by the angel Gabriel a couple hundred years in advance. Macedonia also played a role in the origin of the forerunner of the coming Antichrist, Antiochus IV Epiphanes. And then Macedonia fell into obscurity, completely eclipsed by Rome and nearly 2000 years of history, only to reemerge on the modern map of southeastern Europe in 1991.
Macedonia is a place worth watching, as just noted, and there is something of note to mention that has come from this watching. Everyone should know the name of George Soros, the far left billionaire whose never ending meddling in the internal and political affairs of nations of the West knows no bounds. Well, Mr. Soros has been meddling very, very deeply in Macedonian internal affairs.
Nowhere in the ongoing struggle between globalism and nationalism in the West is it more pronounced than it is in Macedonia, and Soros is 100% responsible for it. Soros is funding corruption in Macedonia on a truly epic scale, and has (pardon the pun) locked horns with another influence seeking and propagandizing force in this region: President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, a Soros arch-enemy. Use the above embedded link to investigate the details.
If Soros has his hand in something, wickedness follows.
ReplyDeleteTheir president can only serve two terms and Gjorge Ivanov will be ending his second term in 2019. Is there someone Soros is backing for the next election that you might be hinting at? A cursory dig on the internet didn't turn up anything.
After reading the article it was discouraging that the conservative Mecadonians were saying they hate America's backing of the liberal party there. Obama's admin was like a sick virus everywhere their name turned up.
Marana'tha!
Trump has to liberate the State Department and the career overseas diplo staff from Obam-Soros apparatchiks, and do it soon.
ReplyDeleteMacedonia is a good case study of the dynamics at play. These dynamics will play a major role in near prophetic fulfillment. Example: Daniel 11:40-45 makes it very clear Antichrist and his kingdom wll have an existential enemy in "Magog/king of the Noth" among others.
Extremely interesting to see the reach and influence of the NWO crew. In that... I am surprised Soros hasn't had a nation go after him legally for meddling... I read this morning that he gave 250 Million / a quarter of a BILLION dollars to the "Day without a woman" protest. He is literally seeding the the unrest and rioting in our country.
ReplyDeleteMy understanding of how the NWO would gain greater control was obviously amiss, I didn't expect nationalism to gain so much popularity around the world.
Exciting, scary, privileged all feelings I have in being a part of what is going on!
Ken B
I always speculated that he would come from Greece, would be a European but have some Jewish blood in him.
ReplyDelete....but ancient Macedonia, I wouldn't have suspected or even thought about it, good catch
ReplyDeleteHartdawg,
DeleteBro, How is it that you do not recall rhat I have been discussing the Macedonian-Greek aspect of "The Origin of the Antichrist" on this blog for nine full years. Remember?
Sorry, I remember very well the Greek aspect,but for some reason, I spaced on the Macedonian aspect of it. I always thought Macedonia and Greece were synonymous, kinda like Elam and Persia. I think I remember now. Macedonia was a small section in the Greek empire just like Elam was a small section in the Persian empire. Is that correct?
DeleteWith the nearness of the Rev 12 sign, it would seem necessary for someone to be positioned very close to center stage. Although we have experienced in 2008 how a relative unknown can be thrust into power. When the sign appeared in 3 BC, Herod was in place, so someone has to be close by IMO, because the Rev 12 sign is at hand. Could all of us watchers be the modern day Magoi?
ReplyDeleteI'm also of the opinion that II Thess verse dealing with "apostasy" is describing a removal more so than a falling away. That's my opinion.....doesn't mean I'm right, just what I feel in my gut.
Lance
Sean,
DeleteI am remembering a comment you made to me on the subject of the revealing of the man of sin. Paraphrasing....you asked me to whom he would be revealed. I think I am umderstanding more clearly now. He won't be revealed to us because we will more than likely already know who it is (if we are around at that time) because we know what to be wary of....yes? Therefore, those who are unawares would need for his identity to be revealed. Was that your point?
Lance
Lance,
DeleteI believe the key here is II Thessalonians 2:6. Follow this sequence
Who is he revealed to?
Israel.
When is he revealed?
"that he may be revealed in his own time."
When is his time?
The final 42 months of the 70th Week.
How does this revealing occur?
The Abomination of Desolation in the Holy Place of the Temple.
That makes much more sense....thx!
DeleteDaniel 7 vision of the fourth beast Is in view. Relates to the 4th Kingdom in Dan 7:23. According to the critics, the four empires of Daniel 2 and Daniel 7 are the empires of Babylon, Media, Persia, and Greece. Not complexly sure how G Soros fits into scripture and eschatology. World events clearly show more wars are afoot.
ReplyDeleteKen,
DeleteNot exactly. The four empires = 1 Babylon, 2 Medo-Persia, 3 Macedon-Greece and 4 Rome.
George Soros is an evil, leftist demagogue, his agenda is contrary to everything we hold dear or sacred. He is delusional and has always held messianic aspirations for himself since he was a child. Now at advanced stage of life he looks for younger men to fulfill the messianic dream he has. Barack Obama was his most recent candidate since 2004.
Now it may be that Soros is finally looking in the correct location for the correct bloodline. That's how this is applicable to Bible prophecy.
I almost forgot... Soros comes from a Hungarian family of self-hating Jews. Jewish anti-semites. George Soros hates the State of Israel with an unbridled passion.
ReplyDeleteThere appears to be a political and institutional crisis because of their recent elections. We will have to see who takes the reigns.
ReplyDeleteI see a White House petition "Issue an International Arrest Warrant for George Soros" got over 58,000 signatures during Trump's first month in office. I'm sure it would've been much more than that if more people were aware of who George Soros is and what he has done!
ReplyDeletehttps://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/issue-international-arrest-warrant-george-soros
hartdawg,
ReplyDeleteThe Macedonian aspect was incredibly large, as was the Macedonian kingdom in those days. Alexander the Great was a Macedonian.
When it crossed the Dardanelles Strait into the Persian Empire (Asia Minor) (the he-goat's first rush against the ram per Gabriel's prophecy to Daniel) in 334 BC Alexander the Great's army was 30,000 strong, half of it was Macedonian.
Map of Macedon 336 BC notice how Macedon controlled all of territory of modern Greece and large sections of southern Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, European Turkey and Romania.
Back in these days, Macedonia was Greece, as in the lion's share thereof, except for Sparta and Crete, but they were as Greek as any of the Greek tribes, the sons of Javan (Genesis 10). This is why the angel Gabriel referred to them as Greece.
Thanks for the history lesson:) I really wish that I had taken advantage of my 2 years at college to learn a lot more instead of playing around. If I knew then what I know now....
DeleteJmoll,
ReplyDeleteThis is where he have to go to Scripture in order to understand the near-term future here; specifically to Gabriel's prophecy to Daniel.
In Daniel 8:9-12 it is expressly noted in the text how the rise of the Seleucid Empire was due to the working of Satanic power, most manifestly in Antiochus IV Epiphanes (forerunner of the coming Antichrist).
The angel Gabriel is speaking in the quote below. And this, on the whole, is an epic example of how the past is prologue for the future!
"Therefore the male goat grew very great; but when he became strong, the large horn was broken, and in place of it four notable ones came up toward the four winds of heaven. And out of one of them came a little horn which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the Glorious Land. And it grew up to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and some of the stars to the ground, and trampled them. He even exalted himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the place of His sanctuary was cast down. Because of transgression, an army was given over to the horn to oppose the daily sacrifices; and he cast truth down to the ground. He did all this and prospered."
Notice how Gabriel's words of Daniel 8 carry forward to the prophetic future text (which came directly from God to Christ to John of Patmos) in Revelation 13. Daniel 11 also contains some exquisite details of how this comes about, and the segue from Antiochus IV Epiphanes is very subtle, but eminently discernible to Spirit-led students of eschatology.
Speaking of which, not many student look to see how Antiochus IV Epiphanes rose to power, the historical record that is; the intrigue, how he rose with the help of a very few well-placed individuals. How this rise was tied direct to Rome itself. "The Origin of the Antichrist" explored this and more.
As someone who lives in Europe and see what’s happening here closely, I could absolutely confirm that Europe is getting ripe for the appearance of the AC! The people of Europe –except the political elite- fear that we’re at the end of our civilization because of the migrant crisis! I’m not exaggerating it, most people in all the countries of Europe (both in the western and eastern parts) are having this anxiety, fear and bleak outlook of the not too distant future that our civilization will end because right now it seems that nobody protects Europe from the flood of migrants from Africa and Asia (and the political elites are helping the migration instead of preventing it). Besides that, there are serious economic problems but again everything dwarfs in comparison of the looming threat of the end of our civilization (and the Judeo-Christian culture). Add to it the “leadership vacuum” political analysts talk about when it comes to the European Union and it gets clear that the whole climate in Europe is ripe for a “savior “to arrive. Imagine the AC being praised for the rescue of our (Western) civilization.
ReplyDeleteHey Sean, real quick question, I'm not sure if I asked this before, if so my memory needs to be refreshed. At what point in Daniel chapter 8 does it switch from past, regarding antiochus, to future talking about the Antichrist?
ReplyDeleteHartdawg,
ReplyDeleteDaniel 8? All of Daniel 8, from where Gabriel begins to give Daniel the interpretation, is about the Antichrist.
It is Daniel 11 where Gabriel deals prophetically with both pre-cursor Antiochus IV Epiphanes and the Antichrist.
And the division between the pre-cursor antichrist and the Antichrist is found at verse 35. Everything thereafter is about the Antichrist.
Okay, thanks for clearing that up for me. I heard 3 main takes on Daniel 8,
ReplyDelete1) that it's only about Antioch us. An interpretation that I always rejected.
2) that it's about both, it starts out about Antiochus then jumps forward to the 70th week. A variant is that he's talking about both like in Ezekiel he talks about the king of tyre but also the fall of Satan
3)it's all about the antichrist. You're the first person to explain it to me that way, that also makes the most sense.
Thanks for clearing that up
I simply cannot understand how the Holy Spirit could provide three completely different interpretations of one specific bit of prophetic dialog (starting at Daniel 8:23) by the angel Gabriel.
ReplyDeleteThat would be an absolute impossibility for the Holy Spirit.
The different interpretations would in that case have to be man-made and obviously erroneous.
This is quite simply because the text of Daniel 8:23 to the end of that chapter could only be about the ultimate "many days in the future" Antichrist, and not about the 168-67 BC Antiochus IV Epiphanes, king of the Seleucid Empire.
Sean, I can tell you right now that most of these people have to reinterprete the scripture to fit their ideology. What I have discovered is that most of those who believe Daniel 8 is not talking about the Antichrist are all millennial preterist who despise Bible prophecy. Does not the passage in Daniel 8 make it clear that it is talking about the time of the end? It flat out says it
DeleteYes it does and it's not a subject for debate IMHO. This may become a blog item pretty quick too.
DeleteI will be looking forward to it, and yes it's not up for debate my opinion either. I'll tell you something else, I used to think it did not matter if you believe in a pre-trib Rapture or not, I think I was wrong I believe it matters greatly. If you don't believe in a pre-trip rap sure you're not taking God at his word and you're basically calling him a liar. I don't believe that it's a doctrine you can "agree to disagree agreeably" on. It's a major doctrine, but that's a different subject for a different time.
DeleteExactly my view also!
ReplyDeleteSean,
ReplyDeleteWondering where in Rev the covenant is confirmed? Could it be part of Rev 6 when the rider on the white horse rides out conquering and to conquer....or maybe Rev 11 when John is told to measure the temple but not to measure the outer court because it has been given over to the gentiles? The covenant is what starts the 70th week, and I was just trying to see where it occurred....may not be important because we know it will happen, but I was just wondering.
Lance
Lance, I just recently watched a presentation by Bill salus on his book apocalypse road. He suggests a gap of possibly several years between the rapture and the start of the 70th week. He suggested that the seals occur during the gap and are not part of the week. Personally, I disagree. I think that the covenant is part of the first seal. I may be wrong and I am not dogmatic on that. I do not plan to be here to find out though
ReplyDeleteHartdawg. I also found much to disagree with in Salus' recent books and have simply and quietly ignored them. They're irrelevant for the purposes of this blog.
ReplyDeleteLance,
I am currently hard researching your question...it's going to be an answer the Holy Spirit points out.
I'm with Hartdawg on not being here to find out!
ReplyDeleteThanks Sean for your efforts....it may not be important to know where in the text it occurs, but I was curious.
Jesus likened these last days to a woman in labor. That means the ever increasing frequency and severity of the "pains" which lead to the birth of His Millennial Kingdom continue unabated through their course.
ReplyDeleteA gap therefore does not conform to the Lord's words; I find a requirement to reject such speculations.
Lance,
ReplyDeleteThe Harpazo/Rapture of the bride of Christ is an utterly, utterly imminent occurrence.
We've just nutshell skimmed in blog discussion the sign of Revelation 12 which occurs this September.
The rest of Revelation 12 has Israel (the virgin woman) in hiding during the 70th Week in a place prepared by God.
We have also discussed Ezekiel 38/39 where God intervenes directly on behalf of "My people Israel." God's focus is clearly on Israel throughout Ezekiel 38/39.
Then there's Revelation 13, immediately in sequence after Revelation 12, and the Beast rises up. Here is where a confirmation of a covenant among many must take place. And the False Prophet is there too.
There is no specified text in Revelation to repeat what the angel Gabriel prophesied to Daniel (9:27)...
by the Holy Spirit - I believe this is because the bride has been in Heaven with Christ - there is no need to repeat what is an accomplished fact, that is, Daniel 9:27 is at that point a fulfilled prophecy.
Hope this helps.
We're monarchists awaiting our ride home, the wait time is likely just a matter of 20-some odd weeks or less.
Sean, I also quietly ignored them too as I agree they're irrelevant to this blog. I'm looking forward to the SITREP concerning geert Wilder. will that be posted soon?
ReplyDeleteThe wait time will be worth it. For we go where there will be no curse and we shall see His face and His name will be on our foreheads. What a day it will be.
ReplyDeleteMarana'tha!
Rev 22:3,4
Hartdawg,
ReplyDeleteI deleted that comment because the data I saw yesterday afternoon was falsified garbage; someone's idea of a joke. It turns out that there was actually a substantial majority of Dutch who voted for the Globalist/pro-EU incumbent government. Strong delusion, inbound and hot!
Next SITREP will cover another topic of prophetic importance.
Good explanation.....I especially like the end of your comments!!! Thanks
ReplyDeleteLance
Sean,
ReplyDeleteSomething that had come to my attention a few months ago but dismissed almost immediately due to health problems, and it involves Mr. Soros. A person of interest to the man is William J. Clinton, and his daughter now being closely related to Georgie Porgie by marriage. President Clinton issued a Presidential Pardon to the future Father-in-Law os one Chelsea and that F-I-L is the nephew of Georgie Porgie. Georgie's great nephew LOST A LOT of money in the futures market after The Wicked Witch lost her bid for POTUS and now the card game they were all involved in are beginning to Trimble and crumble, and rightly so.
Georgie, as you have said is a very MAD to be JEWISH immigrant and hates Israel with a passion most often reserved for Hitler. All of this also makes Wild Billy, Hysterical Hellery, Clueless Chelsea and Georgie Porgie all related, as in Haman-the-Keeper-of-the-Gallows history type of relationship. Out they all go in one mighty swoop of the Avenging Angel.
Now before anyone goes bonkers over my comment, I don't enjoy, gain any satisfaction or desire any destruction of human souls but their self-willed decisions were made by evil designs and they all know it. No delusions on their parts because they have all practiced deception for a very long and destructive time set in motion out of greed and self grandizing motives. Much like Human against the Jewish Nation of his days.
GG5/SHALOM
Sean,
ReplyDeleteI’ve heard and explanation (in a sermon) of the final Roman Empire’s mixture of iron and clay. It was explained so that the iron part is the European democracies and the clay is the flood of Muslim immigrants plus the Muslim population of Europe. It was reasoned that these two cultures can’t mix as iron and clay can’t mix. That one is true, Islam and the Judeo-Christian culture can’t mix BUT I have my doubts that this interpretation is correct. (Right now European democracies seem in great decline instead of being like iron and Islam seems to invade the continent with success and great force.) I know how at first sight the clay and iron interpretation as Islam and Judeo-Christian culture can be fitting but I’m still feeling off about that interpretation, especially when there’s the very possible prophetic outlook that Islam will be humbled in the Ezekiel 38/39 battle and it needs to be fitted into the “new religion” of the False Prophet. Not to mention that AC’s empire will remain iron and clay until the end, that problem will persist. Is there something I don’t see clearly? Maybe I don’t see the bigger picture in case this kind of interpretation of iron and clay will turn out to be true. What are your thoughts on this whole thing Sean? Do you think that this interpretation is possible or completely erroneous? I’ve heard it for the first time.
GG5,
ReplyDeleteI think you meant Haman, in fact I know for a fact you meant Haman the Agagite from the Book of Esther. And you're right, they"re all wannabe Haman's.
Nora,
ReplyDeleteThe correct Biblical response to your question that comes from your hearing a sermon or teaching external to the Eschatology Today blog is for you to seek out the fact-of-the-matter in the Scriptures, like a Berean would with the assistance of the Holy Spirit.
The ancient Berean's did not have the internet and all of our modern technical assistance, but they did find their answers and did seek out truth in Scripture which was nothing more at that time than a scroll of the written Word.
So, being a Berean does not mean coming to me to answer the question for you. And even in that circumstance, the Scriptures require that you still seek out the fact-of-the-matter in what I would write being supported by Scripture.
That said, you are correct to strongly doubt any kind of newspaper exegesis, and you are also partially correct that Europe is not in decline, but rather they are in a state of geo-political flux; there's no clear sense in the secular world of what might result in the near future.
So, what does the Word of God in the form of prophetic Scripture say on the matter?
I can tell you this subject has been very well covered on Eschatology Today, in multiple installments over many years no less, two of the most recent of which have been linked forward for your reading pleasure.
One final clue I will give you to seek out this answer is to re-read, the provided links which are based on Scripture, and then to buttress that by reading Revelation 13:2. That sentence is direct from God, to Christ, who gave it to John on Patmos. There is no doubt about it truthfulness; it is absolute in every letter.
And John described what he saw thus:
"Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority."
Now some questions for you to ponder.
Does this sentence say anything about Muslims in Europe?
Or does it note in symbolic manner the former world empires as revealed to Nebuchadnezzar by Daniel to whom it was revealed by the angel Gabriel albeit in reverse order of how they appeared in history??
What do the Ten Toes represent? What do the ten horns represent, and the little horn which rises among them?
This is an exercise in Bereanism by way of proper hermeneutic exegesis. The answer to your question is clearly given in Scripture. Have you asked the Father to reveal this to you in prayer?
SEAN,
ReplyDeleteYou are correct and I didn't catch the mistake until just now. That last paragraph got human instead of Haman and word corrector tried to do it just now. Sometimes, I would love for the built-in brain child to stop messing with what we type. Then other times, I am tickled pink that it caught something else I misspelled. Thank you for alerting me.
By the way, I feel like I am a school room, jumping in my chair with my arms flying trying to catch the teacher's attention. What? Why? Because I recognize where you are going with Nora's puzzle question answer and there are so many wonderful "Gems" to be discovered along the pathway which you have begun her on. Come on Nora, you will be just as excited as I am right now and you gotta share your journey with all of us. So much to learn and share but we just have to get with it in earnestness from this point on. Love all of you and each day I can hardly wait to get in front of my big pooter and see what you all are sharing. In fact, your conversations and postings were the first sign for my daughter and son to see that I was moving along in my recovery efforts last January thru to November 2016. Thank all of you for loving the Lord and His Word.
GG5/SHALOM
GG5,
ReplyDeleteThe word of encouragement for Nora (and possibly others) is most excellent! Thank you for that!
I'll shortly offer some more hints; these may help folks see what the near future will actually look like according to His Word.
Sean,
ReplyDeleteThe ten toes are the ten "chief nations" of the final roman empire (if I'm right about that), the ten horns are ten kings (the kings of those ten nations I assume) and the little horn is the AC.
"I can tell you this subject has been very well covered on Eschatology Today, in multiple installments over many years no less, two of the most recent of which have been linked forward for your reading pleasure."
I'm waiting for the links thank you!
About Rev. 13:2 I have to admit I feel confused. At first I thought it describes the final roman empire as the mix of all previous ones but it turns out like these verses are about the AC who is empowered by Satan. Maybe the verses are about both of them.
Nora,
ReplyDeleteThe links have always been in the first paragraph of this SITREP.
The TEN TOES are on the feet of the two legs of both ancient Rome and its modern-day final form.
One foot is in Europe, the other (like Israel) is in the Middle East.
Revelation 13:2 says in plain text that the final form of the (Roman) Beast Empire will include all of the attributes, assets and territories which comprised the Greek Empire of Alexander the Great, the Medo-Persian Empire, and the Babylonian Empire.
This involves a host of prophetic last days wars that will change the geo-political face of the Middle East in the run up to the 70th Week. There is currently a major and expanding set of wars in Syria and Iraq. Jeremiah 49:34-39 expands the war into Iran.
European and Middle Eastern toes. Iron and Clay.
For example, the same is also true for Ezekiel 38. Sheba is Yemen. Dedan is Saudi Arabia and its closely related GCC allies.
Why would Sheba (Yemen) oppose its masters in Persia (Iran) coming against Israel in the near future? It will because Iran looses its war against the Western powers and Yemen becomes and ally of theirs. This will obviously happen prior to Ezekiel 38/39.
Happy Reading!
Sean,
ReplyDeleteThank you, everything is much clearer! Now that I checked it, I remember (reading) the SITREP on the "ten toes", I don't know how did I forget about it in the context of "iron and clay".
I thought of this sit rep when I heard about her blaming Macedonia data farms....are you kidding me??? Too funny
ReplyDeleteOn a side note, praying for an "interesting" couple of days. Watching and waiting!
Lance
Lance M,
ReplyDeleteI'm with you in prayer! :)