UPDATE 06 July 2011: Here's a link to a video from Professor Terry J. Lovell and the PatriotNetworkAZ that makes the perfect update for this topic: Another "You Lied" moment
"It seems many geologists are being petty, arguing over facts that have yet to yield answers about crude oil. The mid July 04 Hedberg Conference by American Association of Petroleum Geologists again discussed biogenic versus abiotic origins of hydrocarbons, an interesting and very significant industrial issue. At current rates of world consumption (over 26 billion barrels a year) and with 80% coming from fields discovered before 1973, end of supply is always a concern because proven reserves are only 1,213 billion barrels, 75% of which is in 370 fields worldwide. It is projected that production rates will peak in 2037 unless new reserves are found and sharply decline thereafter.
Then along comes Dr. Thomas Gold, professor emeritus at Cornell and an astronomer no less, who says not to worry. Petroleum is a renewable resource made deep in the earth by inorganic processes (abiotic — an idea first proposed by Russian scientist Mikhail Lomonosov in 1757 who called it “rock oil”) and does not come from piles of dead dinosaurs and fermenting leaves (biogenic). The conventional wisdom of petroleum geologists has been offended and most of them are steamed.
Crude oil is a primordial soup but not of biologic origin, says Dr. Gold, forming under great heat and pressure in the deep biosphere and hydrocarbons we now know are common on planetary bodies. The abiotic theory is that methane, the simplest carbon molecule (CH4) we call natural gas, is formed from carbonate rocks and water at depths of 5 to 20 miles, at pressures of 30 to 45 kilobars (441 to 662 ksi), and temperatures approaching 800˚C (1470˚F). Then the methane condenses into heavier hydrocarbons we call petroleum, collecting in subterranean pools. Most geologists agree so far; you can make oil artificially with these conditions. However the abiotic theory as a natural event is different, supported by these facts:
- High oil quantities are found in locations where assays of prehistoric life
are not sufficient to have produced the existing reserve.- Oil produced from varying depths from the same field has the same chemistry
and does not vary as the fossil life changes with depth at these same spots.- Every oil field outgases helium, which does not appear in meaningful
quantity in any other venue, and is a thoroughly stable, inorganic gas that is a
product of radiologic decay of rocks appearing at great depths within the Earth
mantle.The abiotic theory is rejected by geologists who cite these facts:
Commercial oil fields produce a low content of C-13 isotope in molecules because plant life has available and absorbs the common C-12 isotope;deposits of deep methane have a higher content of the less common (1% of all carbon) C-13 atom. Petroleum deposits occur mainly in horizontal, near-surface reservoirs.Actually, it may well be that both protagonists for their cause (antagonists if you prefer) have strength in their arguments. It is known that hydrocarbons migrate within the Earth’s crust as witnessed by production at Eugene Island in the Gulf of Mexico 80 miles south of Louisiana. In 1973 when discovered, it produced 15,000 bpd but dwindled to 4,000 bpd by 1989. Inexplicably it resumed output to 13,000 bpd but has confounded geologists because current production is of a significantly different (newer) geologic age than yesteryear. Abiogenic proponents say it is being refilled from beneath the formation and that as oil migrates upward; it is attacked by bacteria that alter its appearance. It is known that such bacteria (hyperthermophiles) live at great depths, recorded in Alaska at 4.2 km and in Sweden at 5.2 km (2.6 and 3.2 miles) below the surface.
There has been a long history of this argument. Mendeleyev, who discovered the Periodic table, said in 1870 the same thing offered in 1962 by Sir Robert Robinson of Britain’s Royal Society that “petroleum is a primordial hydrocarbon to which biological products have been added.” That’s quitesimilar to what Dr. Gold is touting and is of enormous importance due to geopolitics and economic impacts of the highly inelastic supply and demand system existing in the world. If abiotic petroleum formation is true, how much reserve really exists on Earth, and more importantly, is human consumption depleting supply faster than replenishment?"
Oil, like the earth and the entire universe for that matter, was Created by God. And as with all things Created by God there have been really grandiose deceptions foisted upon mankind by Lucifer to deceive us into believing things which quite simply are not true. All manner of things, from A to Z, including natural resources. Lucifer even has used generally nice and trustworthy people relay these untruths to us from a very early age. Think of this the next time you fill 'er up and see red because of the price we sheeple are paying these days to feed our commuter vehicles their life's blood. Fuel for thought.
another misconception is that drilling will dramatically affect wild life and can damage the environment... not true. my dad use to work for the aleyeska pipeline and the wildlife was not affected at all... nar was the environment. in fact during the winter moosewould come in lay down right under the pipe. it is also believed that we have more reserved and more untapped then even the middle east. my dad was also telling me that george bush allowed them to drill but the environmentalist stop him. the environmentalist are sponsored by opec. I view this as treason!
ReplyDeleteSean, here's another interesting article from Creation Ministries:
ReplyDeletehttp://creation.com/how-fast-can-oil-form
Mac,
ReplyDeleteThank you; your link is an excellent addition to this topic.
How Fast Can Oil Form
Sean, thanks for this article. I have been traveling and just got around to reading it.
ReplyDeleteBring up renewable oil or global warming and people go ballistic.
BTW, I noticed you do not have Moriel Ministries on your links tab. I am reading Prasch's new book "Shadows of the Beast" which challenges the pre-trib wrath theory, (at least for the whole seven years) mainly because I am afraid I have not studied this topic enough for MYSELF. Any comments would be appreciated. Susan
Hello Susan
ReplyDeleteI knew Jacob was intending to write on his Rapture theory; I didn't realise it was now published.
He used to call himself Pre-Trib, but was really a sort of Mid-Trib. He uses Jewish Midrash to interpret Scripture, which is basically 'typeology' which is 'what was - will be again'.
I am not too sure about this, so I don't want to make a false statement.
Jacob is a very valuable servant of the Lord; he tends to go where 'angels fear to tread' and says it like it is. He is like a big gruff bear with a heart of gold. I respect him very much indeed.
I have heard his views on the Rapture a few times over the years and felt that Jacob is not too clear on what he believes. I do know he has no time at all for Postie or Mid, and had a grudging respect for Pre but leant toward Pre-Wrath, but not quite the same?
At last his book will clarify.
God bless
Sue
Susan,
ReplyDeleteI'm looking into Jacob Prasch's book "Shadows of the Beast." The first thing I noticed on the website promotional page was the book's subtitle, "How the identity of the coming Antichrist will be revealed to the faithful church”.
Without question Jacob Prasch is directly referencing the text of 2 Thessalonians 2:3 which in my view is most certainly a dagger in the heart of those who believe the timing of the Harpazo MUST BE prior to the start of Daniel's 70th Week.
This will have to be something I research much more in-depth before commenting at length about it.
I have always believed that Antichrist would be revealed with his confirming "a covenant among many for one week." However, does that confirming of the covenant actually start the clock ticking on Daniel's 70th Week?
I got work to do. I have to buy his book first of all to see exactly how he treats the subject.
Sean,
ReplyDeletethanks for replying! I too am intrigued with the idea that we are supposed to know the identity of the antichrist The book is a difficult read in my opinion so I am not progressing as fast as I want to.
I ordered the secular DVD "The Daniel Project" from Jacob's site and it is incredible! I've been able to show it to Christians who believe in replacement theology in a non-confrontational way. They got very quiet rather than arguing like they usually do. The evidence from Daniel is compelling to say the least. Best, Susan
Hello Sean
ReplyDeleteThanks to Susan's comment, I sent for Jacob’s book and received it this morning.
I have only read the 'The Great Myth' so far, which, as far as his comprehension of the Pretrib position goes, is a great big MYTHSTAKE! Included in this is his declaration that he holds to ‘IMMANENCY’ the definition of which is ‘existing in all parts of the universe’. No doubt Jacob means ‘IMMINENCY’ which is a ‘pending event’ that was held by the disciples and their context concerned the Rapture, not their ‘any moment death’.
For such an intelligent man, closely associated with many Pretribs, I am stunned and amazed at his misrepresentation of the Pretrib position.
He makes claims that are erroneous like so many straw men which he then knocks down with obvious ease.
My original opinion still stands; he is very confused what Pretrib ACTUALLY teaches, even allowing for some variations. Quoting from Walvord, upon whose shoulders Pretrib now stands, is 'living in the past'; we have learned much since his valuable studies.
He says that we Pretribs in the West are telling people we will not go through 'Tribulation'; then when 'tribulation' comes they are unprepared.
TOTAL ROT!
Jacob is failing to make the distinction between tribulations we ALL go through (some worse than others) which is what Jesus meant - and THE Tribulation of Daniels 70th Week in Chapter 9.
Daniel's 'man of lawlessness' is revealed when Jesus breaks the first seal in Revelation which is when THE covenant is made strong and that very act reveals who a/c is to those who come to Faith in Christ AFTER the removal of the Church.
Don’t forget the two witnesses AND
the 144,000 are employed preaching the gospel of the kingdom at the start of the FIRST 1,260 days (3 1/2 yrs). It HAS to be from the start of the ‘Seven’ because the revived a/c kills the Two in the MIDST of the ‘Week’. MANY will hear (and remember) the gospel truth and believe IN Christ for Salvation. It is these we see under the altar, NOT the Church who COULD have been raptured years before the Restrainer is taken out of the way. She isn't 'abandoned' by God the Holy Spirit, she has been TAKEN by her bridegroom God the Son.
I am sorry this is so frenetic; I have so much to do but needed to get at least one thing off my chest! There is so much more from just his opening statements. Just to reiterate that apart from this composite error, I have MUCH love and respect for Jacob Prasch.
MARANATHA!
God bless
Sue
Sue,
ReplyDeleteI'm still working on a new post as related in my comment above. I'm endeavoring to make this eschatological piece easy to understand for everybody. Keep your eyes open for when i finally do post "Daniel's 70th Week and the Harpazo."