UPDATE 11 September 2017: This is worth noting, and is of some importance. I noticed yesterday that other folks are asking: what about the second sign, the sign of Revelation 12:3-4?
If you are looking for this part of the prophecy, as was mentioned earlier this year (in 2 March 2017 update) those verses are played out in the constellation Draco (the Dragon). Draco is located to the North of Leo and Virgo who are on the ecliptic. This morning, between 0500-05:45 I was able to see Venus, Mercury, Mars and Leo rise on the eastern horizon. I spun to my left, now facing due North and there was Draco the Dragon (beneath the Little Dipper and to the left of the Big Dipper) hovering over the Virgin now in the process of labor but just below the eastern horizon. So, the correct answer is, yes, all of the prophetic elements to be seen in the great sign of Revelation 12:1-2 and the second sign of Revelation 12:3-4 are present in the heavens overhead right now.
7 September 2017: Previously I thought I'd seen all there was to see when it comes to division among brethren-in-Christ over the interpretation of Scripture. I'm not talking about interpretations of essential doctrinal issues, but non-essential, non-doctrinal interpretive issues. One side have their particular view of prophetic verses and present themselves as set-in-stone dogmatic about their view. Opposition to a given non-crucial interpretive view is fine, but the ridicule, scoffing, condescension or joking about a differing interpretive view devoid of a constructive exchange of views is not something any Christian brethren should take part in. Consideration of Scripture and its interpretation should be dealt with and in all Berean sincerity. Unfortunately and to this point it has been a nothing doing kind of situation when it comes to Revelation 12:1-2.
Questions are asked and short, terse one word or incomplete, abbreviated sentences are received in response. Still others deliberately instigate or manufacture confrontations between brethren as if they were some type of self-appointed prosecuting grand inquisitor. This is not how discussions between brethren to resolve differences of interpretation on passages of Scripture should ever be conducted. We have the same Holy Spirit guiding our view as they have guiding theirs, no? What makes their understanding so superior and unassailable?
If you are looking for this part of the prophecy, as was mentioned earlier this year (in 2 March 2017 update) those verses are played out in the constellation Draco (the Dragon). Draco is located to the North of Leo and Virgo who are on the ecliptic. This morning, between 0500-05:45 I was able to see Venus, Mercury, Mars and Leo rise on the eastern horizon. I spun to my left, now facing due North and there was Draco the Dragon (beneath the Little Dipper and to the left of the Big Dipper) hovering over the Virgin now in the process of labor but just below the eastern horizon. So, the correct answer is, yes, all of the prophetic elements to be seen in the great sign of Revelation 12:1-2 and the second sign of Revelation 12:3-4 are present in the heavens overhead right now.
7 September 2017: Previously I thought I'd seen all there was to see when it comes to division among brethren-in-Christ over the interpretation of Scripture. I'm not talking about interpretations of essential doctrinal issues, but non-essential, non-doctrinal interpretive issues. One side have their particular view of prophetic verses and present themselves as set-in-stone dogmatic about their view. Opposition to a given non-crucial interpretive view is fine, but the ridicule, scoffing, condescension or joking about a differing interpretive view devoid of a constructive exchange of views is not something any Christian brethren should take part in. Consideration of Scripture and its interpretation should be dealt with and in all Berean sincerity. Unfortunately and to this point it has been a nothing doing kind of situation when it comes to Revelation 12:1-2.
Questions are asked and short, terse one word or incomplete, abbreviated sentences are received in response. Still others deliberately instigate or manufacture confrontations between brethren as if they were some type of self-appointed prosecuting grand inquisitor. This is not how discussions between brethren to resolve differences of interpretation on passages of Scripture should ever be conducted. We have the same Holy Spirit guiding our view as they have guiding theirs, no? What makes their understanding so superior and unassailable?
The events of the past week have shown that I could not have been more ill-informed that such division among brethren was possible over this issue. This caused disillusionment of an exceptional kind, and at the end of it all yesterday I locked myself in a closet to have a conversation with the LORD about it. It was a very short conversation.
The direct response He gave me was to read Job 37:14-24 through all of Job 38. And I did so in the 1599 Geneva Bible. Job 37:24 and 38:2 hit like five-pound hammers. They read: "Let men therefore fear Him; He will not regard any that are wise in their own conceit," and "Who is this that darkeneth the counsel by words without knowledge?" And therein lies the title of this SITREP: Who has understanding?" The answer: No One But God!
So let the naysayers naysay, and let the LORD who has made and keeps for His purposes all things which He has set in motion fulfill His purposes. The times appointed for the salvation of Gentiles is finite; they are by all indications coming to a rapid conclusion. And concurrent with the expiration of these times in this generation Our Lord has literally commanded us to "Look up!" and with that command also prophesied "there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars, and upon the earth trouble among the nations, with perplexity: the sea and the waters shall roar."
As has been said here many times before, nothing that is occurring these days on or above the earth is coincidental, especially when as with the great sign of Revelation 12:1-2, all of it is in exact detail and can be seen coming together with the naked eye in the sky overhead! Who possesses such an understanding given of God and the Holy Spirit to deny this?
Moreover, the great sign of Revelation 12:1-2 is not occurring in a dearth or a vacuum of ongoing prophetic fulfillment; there isn't a prophecy teacher worth his salt who cannot rattle off a dozen or more prophecies in a matter of seconds in an active process of fulfillment at this time. All of these are preparatory for the 70th Week. Many also still use the phrase stage-setting to describe a plethora of current prophetic goings on. Even truth is actively denied these days, and all manner of other things just as II Timothy 3:1-2 has prophesied it to be. The sad thing is, none of us have really seen anything yet with respect to how much worse things will soon become.
Healthy men are not yet falling over dead of coronary attacks due to fear over what is coming upon the earth. NASA and other space agencies are actively looking for incoming asteroid or meteoric impactors. Why? Could it be because some in government take the parts of Revelation regarding strange occurrences in or from space seriously? I think the answer is very much in the affirmative, even among the secular or scientific elite.
For example, look at Revelation 6:12-14. Jesus opens the 6th Seal. This opening follows previously opened seals which have ravaged the planet through global war and its attendant consequences, and without warning a truly cosmic cataclysm occurs. Moving on to Revelation 8, this chapter begins with Jesus' opening of the 7th Seal which brings upon the earth and mankind the first three trumpet judgments. These three judgments all are in regard to different space-borne objects falling to earth with even more catastrophic global consequences. The fourth trumpet also causes havoc on the earth because of what happens to one-third of the sun, one-third of the moon and one-third of all stars in the heavens. Stop right there!
Read Revelation 8:12 again.
How can the great sign of Revelation 12:1-2 occur in the chapter/verse sequence presented if the catastrophe in the cosmos of Revelation 8:12 occurs prior to it? The obvious conclusion should be that Revelation 12:1-2 is a parenthetical flash backwards in time during the prophetic sequence John on Patmos was being shown by our Lord. Revelation 12:1-2 would have to be the appearing of a great sign in the heavens which took place previously and in conjunction with other last days events. Like on 23 September 2017.
Who has understanding? God does, and that is why when He was on the earth He told us the future in advance and completed His prophetic discourse with a command to do something and when we should do it.
"Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.” (Luke 21:28 NKJV)(Emphasis added)
As has been said here many times before, nothing that is occurring these days on or above the earth is coincidental, especially when as with the great sign of Revelation 12:1-2, all of it is in exact detail and can be seen coming together with the naked eye in the sky overhead! Who possesses such an understanding given of God and the Holy Spirit to deny this?
Moreover, the great sign of Revelation 12:1-2 is not occurring in a dearth or a vacuum of ongoing prophetic fulfillment; there isn't a prophecy teacher worth his salt who cannot rattle off a dozen or more prophecies in a matter of seconds in an active process of fulfillment at this time. All of these are preparatory for the 70th Week. Many also still use the phrase stage-setting to describe a plethora of current prophetic goings on. Even truth is actively denied these days, and all manner of other things just as II Timothy 3:1-2 has prophesied it to be. The sad thing is, none of us have really seen anything yet with respect to how much worse things will soon become.
Healthy men are not yet falling over dead of coronary attacks due to fear over what is coming upon the earth. NASA and other space agencies are actively looking for incoming asteroid or meteoric impactors. Why? Could it be because some in government take the parts of Revelation regarding strange occurrences in or from space seriously? I think the answer is very much in the affirmative, even among the secular or scientific elite.
For example, look at Revelation 6:12-14. Jesus opens the 6th Seal. This opening follows previously opened seals which have ravaged the planet through global war and its attendant consequences, and without warning a truly cosmic cataclysm occurs. Moving on to Revelation 8, this chapter begins with Jesus' opening of the 7th Seal which brings upon the earth and mankind the first three trumpet judgments. These three judgments all are in regard to different space-borne objects falling to earth with even more catastrophic global consequences. The fourth trumpet also causes havoc on the earth because of what happens to one-third of the sun, one-third of the moon and one-third of all stars in the heavens. Stop right there!
Read Revelation 8:12 again.
How can the great sign of Revelation 12:1-2 occur in the chapter/verse sequence presented if the catastrophe in the cosmos of Revelation 8:12 occurs prior to it? The obvious conclusion should be that Revelation 12:1-2 is a parenthetical flash backwards in time during the prophetic sequence John on Patmos was being shown by our Lord. Revelation 12:1-2 would have to be the appearing of a great sign in the heavens which took place previously and in conjunction with other last days events. Like on 23 September 2017.
Who has understanding? God does, and that is why when He was on the earth He told us the future in advance and completed His prophetic discourse with a command to do something and when we should do it.
"Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.” (Luke 21:28 NKJV)(Emphasis added)
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