Sunday, January 1, 2017

Global SITREP A1-17: Israel Sovereignty

Full Sovereignty Israel
1 January 2017: Eschatology Today has come to learn that nineteen days from now with the inauguration of President Donald J. Trump, his new administration will almost immediately begin to reverse 50 years of U.S. policy towards the State of Israel.  No longer will the sovereign State of Israel be constrained to act according to and within the constraints of American Middle East policy. Israel will be free to set its own national decisions with respect to the land it possesses in full sovereignty, to include Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem.

According to the Oslo Accords specific regions within Judea and Samaria (i.e. the West Bank) were designated as administrative divisions, A, B, and C. Areas A and B are non-contiguous plots of land where a majority of the Arab population lives. Area C comprises over 60% of Judea and Samaria; a full 1,600 square miles of contiguous territory where well over 100 settlements and unrecognized outposts have been established since the Six Day War of 1967. The Israeli population of Area C is approaching 400,000 based in 135 settlements; the IDF says about 50,000 Arabs also live in this area. 

The Trump Administration would drop the longstanding U.S. characterization of these settlements as illegitimate and consider them as sovereign Israeli territory; and Arab populated areas would remain within full sovereignty Israeli control. The next logical step for the Israeli government would then be to take full possession of Area C as has been desired by Israeli government proponents of annexation for the past several years. 

This new Israeli sovereignty would also logically extend to the Golan Heights, and Jerusalem would no longer be described in divisive terms of east or west, but as one contiguous city being Israel's national capital, and the location of the U.S. Embassy.

71 comments:

Miriam said...

My initial reaction to seeing this in print was the same one Pastor Barnes had in the Left Behind movie when the Rabbi's statement about realizing that Jesus was the messiah was inadvertently broadcast worldwide by Global News Network - Praise God!!!

Great Grany 5 said...

Hallelujah praise yea the Lord God Almighty, who was and is forever!

Sean Osborne said...

Anonymous,
See BNA 05-16 of 29 December 2016 and the comments, and analyze it with this SITREP. I think you will see the results almost appear predetermined... as in prophetic.

Craig Mayberry said...

This may trigger the Ps:83 war. Although we hate to see more of this it is inevitable. Maranatha!

Sean Osborne said...

Craig,

That is the consensus view of many watchful brethren. It is as Jesus told us, "these things must take place."

The precise timing is within God's knowledge, yet in our earthly perspective the "Palestinian State" and "Israel Sovereignty," which are diametrically opposed camps of men, appear on a trajectory for a head-on collision very few days from today.

Watchful brethren will also note there are other trajectories also in play. Sunni-Shi'a inter-Islamic warfare throughout the Middle East is but one of them.

Bible prophecy evermore appears to be the Lord's ancient Divine foretelling (warning) of what the actions of men will cause to happen on this earth. Most of mankind are deaf and blind to His words, and therein lies the inevitability of their occurrence.

Great Grany 5 said...

Sean and Company,

Oh how I wish I could wr>t Hebrew right at this precise time this morning! There are words inside of my heart that are shouting Hallelujah Jesus but not in English! I will $h out to the Lord God for great is His Mercy and His strength endures forever! Just because the Nation's rage does not mean God is moved away from His Wife!

As I Read your Jan.1st posting the first time I shouted and cried because of the answered prayers for solid plans to overcome evi. This reading this morning is a repeat and the joy is still there but I am reminded that there is still a great requirement for consequated prayer! Evil slipped in to put forth the UNSC edict and we cannot allow anymore snark attacks! And yes, I meant Snark!

Reading so much taking place now of people finally waking up to the real identity of Obama and I do not mean his birthing drama! But where were they when they could have prevented, including my own family members. The sad thing is, the ones who were deceived are the first to tell anyone they are Believers, Democrats and phoo, phoo the idea of Satan being a real element of today. The claim is that all of that is one of two reasons. First one being that all of that was a fable and the second one is nothing we can do about it!

So Sean, you have blessed these last few days of mine with this good news about the plans for rebuttal and my prayers are directed to the reality of their fulfillment!

GG5/SHALOM

Sean Osborne said...

GG5,

There must be spiritual war raging in that higher domain. All that we see on our level is just a reflection of that contest; it is really intense from my own perspective on this level.

Full armor everybody, put on the full armor.

Lance M said...

I imagine that the phrase "peace & security" or "peace & safety" will be used quite a bit on the 1/15 meeting......could be an interesting meeting.

Lance

hartdawg said...

This has been said many times, but it just hit me again anew, Psalm 83 and Gog/Magog and the rapture could come to pass in 2017/2018. Not saying that it will, but from the looks of things it sure seems very possible.
Have you ever had a fact that you knew for a very long time, even a basic fact, suddenly hit you anew?

Great Grany 5 said...

Sean,

I am quitting my Twitter account to nite because I am too vocal; things I should just shut up about and quit acting like I am Rambo on the attack. In the last week I have aquire an excessive number of strangers following me and some from positions that make me a little apprehensive. But the main thing is, I am not serving God in doing that and I have the inward witness to stop, so I am!

I am telling you this because I have the same inward witness that you just stated in your response! I think that is why I am being so brazen in my comment's and it is dangerous. Besides, I have other avenues to fulfill for the Affairs of God and that will be my only goal!

However what I have learned is very startling for all of us. America has been pushed almost to the very brink by all of the slander, lies, corruption and extreme deception and PUSH BACK is almost to revolting stage, if not there right now! There will be a big price to pay but I have to be obedient to the ONE I am saved by and time to get on with it now! But the list of those wound up like a tight spring deserve better than what they are going to get.

Armour ON and HEAD covered!

GG5/SHALOM

Sean Osborne said...

Lance,

You could be right about that if the agreed upon result of the Paris Conference is not a one-handed declaration. Even then, the historical fact is that Arab Islamists have never agreed with a declaration that came from infidel states of the Dar-al-Harb. [Dar-al-Harb or Land of War is Arabic for all land that is non-Islamic, meaning it is yet to be conquered for the false moon god.]

This is why the 1947 U.N. Partition Plan (Resolution 181) for the former British Mandatory Palestine was immediately rejected by the Arab League; it surrenders what they consider to be Arab Islamic land to the Jews.

The Arab Islamic rejection of the 1947 Partition Plan was for the very reason cited by Asaph the singing chozeh (seer, prophet): (Psalm 83:4)

"They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance."

Thus the 1947 U.N. Partition Plan (Resolution 181) for the former British Mandatory Palestine was a half-baked, ill-advised, lifting of unredeemed heads at the U.N. recipe for the past 70 years (better part of a century) of war between Israeli and Arab.

This is also why I have insisted on this blog from the get-go that the Psalm 83 War began in November 1947; the 70th Anniversary thereof (based on our calendar) will occur on 29 November 2017, and based upon God's 360-day calendar the 70th anniversary occurred on 14 December 2016.

I strongly suspect the Paris Conference intent is a unilateral declaration of a sovereign "State of Palestine" in complete contravention of the Oslo Accords, and as noted in Breaking News Alert 05-16 of 29 DEC 16.

I also think the prophetic "peace and safety" motto is meant for the first 42 months of the 70th Week.

Sean Osborne said...

hartdawg,

I agree, and have been saying it for some time now per the Psalm 90 (70 years/80 years) "formula" which began counting on 14 May 1948 (again, over a period of 70 years a difference of 350 days exists between our calendar and the Lord's).

Sean Osborne said...

GG5,

Good move. Social media provides those who intend to martyr Christians and their family, friend a direct vehicle to achieve their objective. Become a hard target, the angels will do the rest.

hartdawg said...

Hey Sean, please don't chew my Hyde off or give me a failing grade for what I'm about to say, just correct me if I'm wrong. (If I'm wrong then maybe I deserve a C+ or B-). I am having a hard time seeing Psalm 83 and Gog and Magog being close together, I am thinking that it's going to take Israel a year or two or maybe even three to completely rebuild and have the scenario described in Ezekiel 38. So to me, it's looking like Psalm 83 will likely be fulfilled this year but Ezekiel 38 and 39 and the Rapture of the church is probably two to three years out. What I said does not deserve a failing grade does it?

Great Grany 5 said...

Sean,

I feel so much relieved now and you are absolutely correct, my Angels will indeed do the rest of it!

I do know that I am excited I am anticipating great moves by Heaven and a clue what they will be but it will be GOD doing it and the shim sham minister will be exposed, one at a time!

GG5/SHALOM

Anonymous said...

Also, If we count 70 years from the UN partition plan going by the Hebrew calendar we end up at December 4, 2017.

-- Michael

Rhonda said...

Have any of you heard the music of traveling Pastor Dave Horn? One of my favorite songs of all time is on his CD - Fix Our Eyes called "I Need You - You Are Mine."
You can stream this song and all his songs for free at www.burningbushleague.com. At
the top of the page click on music then click on Fix Our Eyes, (which is a good song too), then on #6 I Need You - You Are Mine. It is so beautiful. Its just want we need right now as we watch all this ugliness going on in our fallen world. Grab tissues, I always cry when I hear this song.

Sean Osborne said...

hartdawg,

I've thought along the same timeline as you are for some now, so I don't see any issue with a two to three year separation between the two prophetic fulfillments.

Lance M said...

Sean,

As usual, your comments have as much info as your Sit-reps. Unfortunately, I think you are on the mark with your concerns about the Paris meeting. I think it will be a strong armed attempt to establish a Palestinian state, effectively carving up Israel. Still, i antivipate hearing "peace & security"....only it will be used as a pretense for a two state solution. I think we'll see all the nations fall right in line....having convinced themselves that they are taking this action for the greater good. Could the Jewish people see the rise of their Moshiach Ben David because of the defensive action they may have to take??? Again, nothing may come of this, or it could be a very large domino is about to fall.

Lance

Sean Osborne said...

Lance,

The pre-70th Week Moshiach ben Joseph would be a better fit.

The antichrist would be the false Moshiach ben David.

Lance M said...

Had that confused...thx!

Sean Osborne said...

You're welcome... these details need to be repeated from time to time, and for that I thank you Lance!

hartdawg said...

I'm glad I didn't fail😊 I think that anything is possible. It could still occur in rapid succession "like a flood" and we could still be outta here this year, but as I said, I'm having a hard time seeing it. Also, I think that the rapture, Gog and Magog and the start of the 70th week will all be very close in time

89rscam said...

Sean,

Brave was freaking out the other day while I was trying to read Arutz Sheva... I assume it was doing it's best to block something as well... I haven't been back for a day or two.

In other news...
Just an honest question for you and Hartdawg.
Do you think there will be rebuilding after a Psalm 83 finale? I have personally assumed it would be a thunderous butt kicking by Israel to protect their land. Only rebuilding would be in arab areas that caught Israeli wrath...

And one more thing. I caught this this morning, could be of some importance?
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Report-Israel-spy-satellite-discovers-secret-Russian-missile-cache-in-Syria-477667

Maranatha!
Ken B

Sean Osborne said...

Well here's repeat info on Exekiel 38/39 for you to ponder.

What if the invasion attempt of this prophecy comes to fulfillment in a single day?

What if the so-called "War of Gog and Magog" isn't a war at all, but instead is actually a very one-sided battle, literally a slaughter, waged by our Omnipotent God against puny human military forces bent on Israel's conquest for the purpose of economic rape?

The only real and measurable time involved in Ezekiel 38/39 is the burial of enemy dead and burning of their war material.

Nora said...

Sean,

I've read studies on Ezekiel 38/39 before which held the view that Ezekiel 38/39 is possibly a quick battle, its duration is several hours long, no longer than one day or just one day and only the Lord (without any human involvement) will fight on the side of Israel against the invading armies, destroying them. I think that's a possibility. Also, there's your former (?) point of view, saying that God won't be "solely" involved in the destruction of the enemy armies, instead He'll use the forces of western countries (possibly NATO?) and Ezekiel 38/39 will be a limited world war. Events could happen quickly this way too I think, although I'm not an expert on military stuff, so I don't know exactly how quick things could happen in case of a limited world war.

Sean Osborne said...

Yes, the Magog confederation is not completely destroyed in Ez. 38/39; they come against the Antichtrist in great numbers in the 70th Week per Daniel 11:40-44.

jmoll106 said...

Very nice song, thanks

Miriam said...

Hi Sean, I've been thinking this over. In your opinion am I correct in thinking that the 7 year peace agreement will involve dividing the Temple mount? In Revelation 11, it is noted that the outer courtyard of the 3rd Temple has been given to unbelieving gentiles. There is also mention of the judgment that will be poured out on the gentile nations for dividing God's land in Joel 3.

And if that's the case, is it your understanding that the harpazo will occur before the peace treaty is finalized, and/or just around that time? It seems like that agreement is kind of like the firing of a starter's pistol that will mark the beginning of the 7-year wind down to the return of Jesus to the Mount of Olives. If we won't be here during the Thilipsis, I wonder if that implies that we will be elsewhere by the time the peace agreement dividing Jerusalem is signed and ratified.

And I also agree with you and Hartdawg that it seems like there are a number of events that will have to transpire before all of this takes place. As you stated in the earlier sitrep, the little horn will have emerged onto the world stage and we will likely be here to witness that. So if my train of thought is right so far, the harpazo will occur at some time after the little horn is on the world stage but before or just around the time that the peace treaty is made official.

hartdawg said...

Hey Sean, I have some more thoughts that I would like to run by you and let's see if this gets a passing or a failing grade, it concerns the aftermath of Psalm 83,
1) I am not dogmatic but I really think that the church is going to be here to witness this final fulfillment and here is what I think it's going to produce
A) the spiritual results, I think that after this prophecy is fulfilled it's going to spark a lot of interest in Bible prophecy and I think a lot of people are going to wake up and I think we are going to see one more final push for the gospel before the church is caught up and I think a lot of people are going to come to Christ because of this
B) the physical results, I think the results of Psalm 83 are going to have good results and not bad, it seems to me that when all is going well for Israel all will be going well for the rest of the world. With Israel in control of a lot of the gas and oil I think the economy is going to start the boom and gas prices are going to go down. I also think that with Israel being unhindered we're going to see a huge explosion and Technology and I think it will further boost the world economy
Now concerning how long it will take Israel to rebuild after the psalm 83 War, I am thinking that was Trump being president America will help Israel rebuild and I think that will shorten the time frame it takes time for Israel to rebuild. I also think that with an Administration that blesses Israel like that I think America will also be blessed. Jesus said that at the time of the rapture people will be planting and building buying and selling eating and drinking, I think that some 83160 field will produce that kind of a result.

Now let me ask you a question Sean. If I am correct about the church being here to witness Psalm 83, are you going to be ready for the coming Soul Harvest as a result? Are you going to be ready 2 point to the scriptures and show them the undeniable hand of God?

Nora said...

I’d like to add my 2 cents on the Antichrist’s appearance. In my opinion we have to wait and see but right now my stance is that the Church containing the Restrainer, the Holy Spirit has to be gone before the AC could appear on the world stage in any way! Right now I don’t think that the Lord will wait with the Rapture until the time right before the peace treaty’s confirmation.

Sean Osborne said...

hartdawg,

That's entirely up to the Lord, and in more ways than one. As long as I live, have eyesight, and there's a free an open internet I plan to be jere for the purpose the Lord wants me to fulfill.

Sean Osborne said...

Nora,

If I inderstand your position correctly, the Restrainer/Holy Spirit must depart the Earth at the Harpazo of the bride of Christ,

Please tell us how it is that the first 42 months of the 70th Week are relatively peacefull and the most fruitful in history in sheer numbers of born-again Christians?

hartdawg said...

A very good point, Sean. I think that people read the Identity of the restrainer into the text. I'm of the belief that the restrainer is the timing of God, God's timetable. That's my belief, but I don't stand too strongly on that. There are other possibilities, but I think that God's timetable best fits.

Sean Osborne said...

Many are not mindful that 144,000 evangelists will be powered by the Holy Spirit, as will the Lord's Two Witnesses. They forget that God will pour out His Spirit upon all Israel. Many need to study Romans 11 further.

Then there are the innumerable new Christians of the first 42 months. They don't get the Holy Spirit like we all did?

Nora said...

Sean,

I don’t see a conflict in the Holy Spirit’s current restraining function and His later involvement concerning the Tribulation believers and all the other things during the Tribulation era.

Sean Osborne said...

Nora,

There is no conflict. All that is required here is to understand the Holy Spirit's Christ-stated purpose on the Earth and where He had resided since Pentecost, circa 33 AD. This is what Paul's message to the Thessalonian's (II Thess. 2) was all about.

When the bride of Christ is taken in the Harpazo, that part of the Holy Spirit which has been resident in the bride of Christ is removed from the Earth. That means that identifying the Restrainer singularly as the Holy Spirit is not quite accurate.

The Restrainer is the Holy Spirit-indwelt bride of Christ.

Altogether as one in Christ, it is we, the bride of Christ, who is the "what is restraining" the appearance of Antichrist in his own time (II Thess. 2:6), even though the "mystery of lawlessness" has been at work in the world for the past 1,980-some odd years. It is at the promised fulfilled of the Harpazo (Revelation 3:10), when the bride of Christ is removed that He, the Holy Spirit, is removed from us.

When we are taken to be with Christ, the Holy Spirit continues His work, but no longer within the church, but within all Israel. And within Israel His purpose on earth will be different than it was within us. At that time every believer will bear a mark, the sign of God, on their forehead. And that's a topic for another time.

Nora said...

Sean,

I agree with you, I see these things the same way. Yes, it is indeed important to point it out that the Church indwelt by the Holy Spirit is the Restrainer, sorry about that! There’s only one thing I’m not sure of. You wrote,

“It is at the promised fulfilled of the Harpazo (Revelation 3:10), when the bride of Christ is removed that He, the Holy Spirit, is removed from us.”

According to my current understanding it is not clearly pointed out in the Scriptures that the Holy Spirit will be fully removed from us. I know that we‘ll no longer have a sinful nature and we’ll be renewed completely in the image of Christ and I cannot describe how much I’m looking forward to this! But I’ve always had the notion that we’ll be forever connected to the Holy Trinity through the Holy Spirit.

hartdawg said...

Quick question about the coming middle East war. Does Israel know that it could soundly defeat her surrounding enemies, the Psalm 83 nations?

Sean Osborne said...

I believe they know this and have planned accordingly. The major primary fronts will be In the north (Joshua 13) and in Jordan.

hartdawg said...

Thank you

Miriam said...

As many of you may know I was not a huge Ted Cruz fan during the Republican Primaries last year, but he gave a heck of a speech before the senate at the end of 2016 calling Obama and Kerry out in no uncertain terms and defending Israel. My son brought it to my attention this afternoon. I was very impressed. Here is the link to one upload if you are interested in listening, there are other similar links on Youtube as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yObSR1HEfJw

jmoll106 said...

Excellent speech, I am glad Sen. Cruz reminded our allies that Jan 20th is coming and should keep that in mind at the upcoming France peace conference.

Sean Osborne said...

The US House repudiated Obama & Kerry for their role in UNSC 2334, spoke to their plan to reverse it. Also directed both to take no negative action wrt the 15 Jan meeting in Paris. France.

Lance M said...

Sean,

One thing that I keep wrestling with...the concept of Israel standing on her own. It seems like, just prior to the 70th week (or at the start of the 70th week), Israel will be isolated....without ally (other than God). The thing that trips me up is this...as long as the church is here, Israel will have an ally. We've seen what that can mean when there is subversive leadership at the helm, as was the case over the last 8 years. However, with new leadership comes the promise of support....if that support is indeed pledged, then Israel would not be standing alone. Again, more support that the bride is the restrainer. I guess my struggle is more of desire to get things moving. As long as the bride is here, things can get much worse, but they can go only so far. The whole point to this is....a Trump admin would seem to put things off a bit. However, if that admin were to be suddenly "removed"....there would be a clear path to Jerusalem for all of her adversaries, especially if the left-behind globalists already had the framework for a "peace" plan in place (to force on an isolated nation). I'm reaching way too far down the road I know, but i think this Paris meeting has big implications.

Miriam said...

Hi Lance, I'm not Sean but your comments would be consistent with what has been discussed before about a sudden event of some sort that occurs milliseconds after the Harpazo removes the Restrainer (us) from the scene, in such a way that the remaining unbelieving majority who buy into the strong delusion are able to attribute our disappearance to a natural or man-made disaster.

What is left behind in the United States at that point might quickly become a country that we and the men and women of faith who preceded us might not recognize. This may be why the scripture says that Israel will stand alone.

Although it is my personal hope and prayer that at least part of the United States continues to support Israel in some fashion, and/or at least contains significant pockets of resistance to the global government. My take on the whole world coming against Israel is that it may not be the entire earth as we think of it, I come to this possibility because while there are scriptures that say that the antichrist will rule the whole earth, there are others that note certain areas that will escape his control and/or actively fight against him. In the final battle, a great army from the east will be headed to Jerusalem and I think Sean has mentioned this might be to fight against the antichrist. Jesus also spoke of the judgment of sheep and goat nations based on their activities during the Tribulation, so compliance with the antichrist will clearly not be uniform. The United States is a bit of an enigma at this point, any references to us are of necessity rather cryptic and up to interpretation.

I guess we'll see. I wonder how much we'll be able to see when we are at the wedding supper.

jmoll106 said...

They had 8 years to do these things and didn't. All nations involved have to consider what the new administration in the U.S will do as Sean said above.

Sean Osborne said...

Lance,

Prior to the 70th Week Ezekiel and Isaiah both prophecy to us that Israel will be at peace, with security and safety and possessing an accumulation of great material wealth; they will fear no nation on earth.

What has to happen for this reality to come to be?

Sean Osborne said...

Also, during the first 42 months of the 70th Week Israel will be in the "covenant" treaty with the Western alliance, the leader of which many if not most of Israel will accept as Moshiach ben David.

Sean Osborne said...

Indeed. 8 years and 11 Trillion of additional national debt, and what has America to show for this massive expenditure?

Nothing more than an imposed global redistribution of our wealth.

Lance M said...

To answer your question....from the world's viewpoint, Israel would only need the support of her ally, the US, for that peace & prosperity to be enjoyed. Yes? If so, we know that happens on 1/20.

Lance M said...

Miriam,
I'm ready to find out the answer to your question!!!

Sean Osborne said...

Lance,

I was thinking of an answer more along the lines of a literal fulfillment of Psalm 83, Ezekiel 28:24-26, Isaiah 11:12-14, Joshua 13 (and a few others) as being how Israel achieves peace,safety, security and an abundance of material wealth prior to the Ezekiel 38/39 prophecy.

January 20, 2017 will definitely be an important date to commence this paradigm shift.

Nora said...

I’m looking forward curiously to this peace conference on the 15th of January because I think it is possible that a 7 years long peace plan will be introduced, the one that is later confirmed by the AC. (I’m not saying that the AC will appear, I’m just saying that the peace plan that he will confirm in the future could be introduced at this upcoming international peace conference.)

Lance M said...

You're right Sean....Psalm 83 fulfillment would remove all Israeli obstacles to peace & prosperity. I'm thinking of the world situation....you're keeping me focused on the prophetic (which is really all that matters!).

Lance

Sean Osborne said...

Nora,

Much too soon for this to happen I would surmise.


According to the prophetic timeline found in Daniel, prior to the covenant are the ten horns of which three will be pulled up by their root by the emergent little horn with human eyes and boastful mouth.

This was recently discussed here and to which I will shortly add more that we must consider for the prophecy to fulfill.

Great Grany 5 said...

Sean,

I am anticipating great moves by our Heavenly Father to encerase expotentu ally each day but keeping in mind that there are also new attempts by the darkness to subvert all the plans by Abba.just learned about the new info regarding Obama giving Iran more material that can be used in manufacturing atomic energy!

Sad what a misguided mind has developed in this man that a vast population was deceived as to his true nature! So looking forward to his permanent removal and no thought of him being the A.C.

Have a great week ahead and so appreciate your great work!

GG5/SHALOM


Miriam said...

Hi dear Great Granny, the awful situation that zero, Kerry and Hitlery have precipitated with Iran is probably a necessary part of the build up to the prophecy of Elam that has been discussed here. When all is said and done, theirs will be a unique legacy of infamy and betrayal, one that is so extreme that it will send Neville Chamberlain back to the minor leagues of history, so to speak.

In view of Jesus having said that all these things must take place, you and I and the rest of the saints should not give in to fear or anger but pray for the believers in Iran, that God's will be done and many of them be rescued and redeployed by the Holy Spirit throughout the earth - after all, Jeremiah wrote that there would be no country to which the outcasts of Elam will not flee (this is what they say they want to do to Israel and the pattern of the book of Esther is going to repeat itself - they will be hung on the gallows they are building for Israel and America).

And of course we should pray and work to see that as many Iranians as possible come to faith in our Messiah before that event occurs.

And I hope that those Iranian believers who move from Iran to the presence of
God when that prophecy is fulfilled will intercede with the Father on behalf of all of us who are still taking up spiritual arms here on earth.

Nora said...

Sean,

Yes, I guess it’s too early for a fully formed peace-treaty but it’s possible that steps will be taken in its direction on the 15th of January. Maybe nothing extraordinary will happen but it would be interesting if they brought up some plan with a 7 years long timeline for example. Not the fully formed treaty just a “base “for it, an “outline” kind of thing.

There’s another topic I’d like mention. I’ve been thinking on Jeremiah’s prophecy against Elam. (Jeremiah 49:34-39) The timing of this prophecy… I know that many people think that a possible preemptive strike will happen against Iran and this prophecy will be fulfilled that way. But I have a few problems with that view because of several aspects that are mentioned in this prophecy. I’m quoting 2 of them. “And there will be no nation to which the outcasts of Elam will not go.” Also, “And I will send out the sword after them until I have consumed them. ‘Then I will set My throne in Elam and destroy out of it king and princes, ‘declares the Lord.” After the Lord has dealt with Iran like that, in a clearly fatal way, how could they gather their strength and go against Israel with Russia and the others? To me, Jeremiah’s prophecy against Elam sounds much more like the conclusion (and the consequence) of the Ezekiel 38/39 battle for Iran.

Miriam said...

Hi Nora, I think Elam actually comprised what would today be around the southern 1/4 to 1/3 of Iran. At the time of Jeremiah, I think that Elam was bordered by the kingdoms of the Medes, Persians and Parthians (hopefully someone will correct me if I am confused about that).

Maybe this is the reason that Elam was specified - that is the area of Iran's largest nuclear reactor. Thus, it might be physically possible for the prophecy to occur even though the rest of greater Iran is still relatively intact (like the Japanese islands continued to be inhabited even after the nuclear events of WW2).

Also, there are sometimes mid sentence pauses in the fulfillment of biblical prophecy. An example of this is the prophecy of Isaiah that Jesus read in the temple and said it was being fulfilled that day - Jesus stopped reading in mid-sentence and the last part of that sentence remains unfulfilled.

That might be the case here, the removal of the kings and rulers might not occur until the Gog/Magog war, and then the restoration of Elam/setting up of the throne of God spoken of at the end of that chapter will obviously not occur until Jesus has returned.

These are just my thoughts and speculation on my part, I'm sure there is a lot I am missing and we won't really know the timing of everything until we see how things play themselves out.

Sean Osborne said...

Just a note to clarify things being written here.

Elam as a kingdom in its own right had ceased to exist long before Jeremiah was born. Assyria under Assurbanipal finally completely destroyed Susisna in 646 BC, a full 20 years before Jeremiah began his ministry in 626 BC.

During the era of Jeremiah's prophetic ministry the region of Elam was fully within the Achaemenid Persian Empire founded by Cyrus the Great.

This means that the Elam of Jeremiah 49:34-39 is the Persia of antiquity and to this day.

hartdawg said...

Will you be writing a sit-rep on the 15th in response to the UN summit?

Miriam said...

Sean, at the time Jeremiah wrote his prophecy, was today's greater nation of Iran referred to as Elam?

jmoll106 said...

According to Jewish Press, PM Netanyahu has proof the Obama Administration orchestrated the UN resolution.
I don't think anyone is suprised.
http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/netanyahu-to-aipac-leader-we-have-solid-evidence-obama-orchestrated-unsc-resolution/2017/01/10/

Sean Osborne said...

Just a note to clarify things being written here.

Elam as a kingdom in its own right had ceased to exist long before Jeremiah was born. Assyria under Assurbanipal finally completely destroyed Susisna in 646 BC, a full 20 years before Jeremiah began his ministry in 626 BC.

During the era of Jeremiah's prophetic ministry the region of Elam was fully within the Achaemenid Persian Empire founded by Cyrus the Great.

This means that the Elam of Jeremiah 49:34-39 is the Persia of antiquity and to this day.

Sean Osborne said...

hartdawg,

If the meeting warrants a special mention of note I'll probably breaking news alert to it, but I think we all know what will come out of that meeting. The meeting agenda, just like all of the meeting agenda's regarding Israel that came before this one, is obvious, no?


Miriam,

The point of Jeremiah's prophecy is the modern-day regime of Iran as a whole. It is an unfulfilled prophecy that will soon come to its conclusion. Bows and arrows were NOT the foremost of ancient Elam's military power, spears and chariots were. Arrows, in massive barrages was, and still is so to speak, the foremost of the Islamic Republic of Iran's military power. Also, Isaiah 11:11-12 also refers to Iran and Elam in a parallel prophecy to Ezekiel 37. This has all been covered here before (see: SITREP B5-14 of January 2014 and the original post of Jeremiah 49: Will a Coalition of Nations Move Against Iran?(Yes, They Will!!!) posted in April 2012).

Additionally, in the narrative history found in the Book of Esther, the narrator and the Jews living in the former destroyed Elamite capital city and rebuilt Medo-Persian capital city of Susa (i.e. Shushan) refer to their geographic location as what? Elam?

No, the narrator, possibly Mordecai himself, says they are within the realm of Ahasuerus (Xerxes I circa 484 BC) ruler of Persia and Media; whose kingdom stretches from Hoduw (Hindustan - India) to Kuwsh (Sudan).

Incidentally, this description in the scroll of Esther of Xerxes kingdom's expanse in the opening verse confirms Daniel's prophetic vision of the second beast empire being like a bear with three ribs in its mouth. Those ribs are symbolic of Babylon, Lydia (western Asia Minor - modern Turkey) and all of Egypt south to the Sudanese border. (This will be important later, so keep it in mind!!)

mark3210 said...

Sean,

There are times the left is going so crazy I feel like I am living in an alternate universe. Just yesterday alone we had all of the following events:

1) A Democrat Senator says he'll testify against a colleague in confirmation hearing for first time in history

2) Leftist protesters dress up as KKK and yell and scream like crazy people at confirmation hearing

3) MSM outlets run new "fake news" stories about intelligence agencies investigating Trump being "compromised" by the Russians

4) Obama interrupts network primetime one last time and the MSM tells us again how great he is

Sean Osborne said...

Mark,

This is nothing when compared to what is coming and ALL of it has been foretold by the Lord's prophetic word.

Sean Osborne said...

II Timothy 3:1-5

Sean Osborne said...

Before moving on... the following linked article by Andrew C McCarthy is a MUST READ.

It is a MUST READ in order for the average American to fully understand what has been going on in the USA for some time and continuing to this very day. Read it three times if necessary to be sure it sinks in.

Missing from the Intelligence Report: The Word 'Podesta'


hartdawg said...

yes, Sean, I think we both know that the outcome is obvious.